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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!bry From: bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Message-ID: <bryDLAL8K.Huu@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4crliv$smk@olympus.nwnet.net> <4cuums$bi1@helena.MT.net> <30F8483A.7187@commerce.uq.edu.au> <DL7yHA.K98@metrics.com> <bryDL90q4.AB2@netcom.com> <4dh100$rnv@park.uvsc.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:05:08 GMT Lines: 47 Sender: bry@netcom17.netcom.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1862 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:1993 comp.unix.solaris:56726 comp.unix.aix:68264 Terry Lambert (terry@lambert.org) wrote: : bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) wrote: : ] : ] Tom Haapanen (tomh@metrics.com) wrote: : ] : You just "forgot" about BSDI, FreeBSD and NetBSD, didn't you? They still : ] : look amazingly slive to me ... : ] : ] Not compared to Linux! Their are alot of talented BSD people who could : ] be helping the Linux group but instead just in the UNIX tradition you : ] have all these different variants of free UNIX. : Trying to start a "GPL vs. UCB license" thread here as well? : Limit yourself to redefining "free" in the advocacy groups, : please. I could care less about GPL vs. UCB license. God you live for this stuff don't you? If I don't have to pay for it it's free. My point still stands, in the grand UNIX tradition you have all these different variants of free UNIX all trying to do the same thing, be a free UNIX. If the Linux & *BSD camps got together only good would come out of it. The free UNIX camps are just as bad as the commercial ones. UNIX, making the world easier for MS to dominate with NT! : ] Luckily Caldera choose Linux as most people are, and more : ] importantly Linux trys to be POSIX compliant meaning their : ] is no BSD or SYSV bias! : POSIX has a large SVR4 bias. It's not an entirely bad thing, but : it does mean a strict implementation incorrectly fails to deliver : HUP signals to members of the process group when the controlling : TTY experiences on-to-off DTR. There is a lot of crap in POSIX... : not that BSD and SVR4 don't also strive for compliance. At least : SVR4 has undergone certification testing. When is the Linux : community going to pony up the $50,000 for the NIST/PCTS run and : POSIX certification by an approved testing laboratory? For a free UNIX, you'll just have to take their word for it ;) : Terry Lambert : terry@cs.weber.edu : --- : Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present : or previous employers.