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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!bry From: bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Message-ID: <bryDL3r9p.2oq@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4cu7t0$mg5@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <4cv8j1$59k@park.uvsc.edu> <4d37d4$j0l@gremlin.backfire.mn.org> <DL29Az.Ax2@ftel.co.uk> Distribution: inet Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:32:13 GMT Lines: 40 Sender: bry@netcom10.netcom.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1932 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2077 comp.unix.solaris:57135 comp.unix.aix:68636 Ian G Batten (I.G.Batten@ftel.co.uk) wrote: : In article <4d37d4$j0l@gremlin.backfire.mn.org>, : Charles <charles@backfire.mn.org> wrote: : > Regardless of whether or not you like Solaris, the fact is that Sun is : > pushing it very very hard, and if you don't learn it, you'll be sitting : > in the unemployment line with your 4.x skills, right behind those VMS : > people who refused to learn Unix. : The usual claim is that SunOS 4 is ``faster''. Just before I deleted my : SunOS 4.1.2 and SunOS 4.1.3 trees from /export on our Auspex (*) I tried : a few local jobs on a diskless 16M ELC running 4.1.2 and a diskless 16M : ELC running 2.5. The 2.5 gadget came in 10% or so faster on a wide : range of things. : I am also heartily amused that the ``SunOS 4 is marvellous, what's this : 5 crap?'' arguments are word for word identical to the abuse heaped on : SunOS 4 relative to SunOS 3. What I really love is the SunOS 4.1.x lovers who talk about Soalris as if they actually have used it. You have people who spent years on SunOS and can tune the OS the way they like and then compare that to Solaris 2.3 and say Solaris sucks. The day I hear from someone who uses SunOS 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.5 on a regular basis and knows both OS's well and concludes that SunOS is better, is the day I give up UNIX and move to the NT camp. The arguement I loved was the comparison of SunOS 4.1.x threads to Solaris 2.x. SunOS 4.1.x threads are a joke and Sun years ago told developers that they would no longer be supported and told our company not to use them. A few programmers wanted to use them and you can guess when deadline time came where all the problems were. When we ported to Solaris 2.4 and rewrote using real threads, the problems all went away. Wonder why?