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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!bry From: bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Message-ID: <bryDL3wpx.4o@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4cv8j1$59k@park.uvsc.edu> <4d37d4$j0l@gremlin.backfire.mn.org> <DL29Az.Ax2@ftel.co.uk> <DL3Bv8.22H@ritz.mordor.com> Distribution: inet Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 06:29:57 GMT Lines: 35 Sender: bry@netcom15.netcom.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1945 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2089 comp.unix.solaris:57198 comp.unix.aix:68681 : >I am also heartily amused that the ``SunOS 4 is marvellous, what's this : >5 crap?'' arguments are word for word identical to the abuse heaped on : >SunOS 4 relative to SunOS 3. [snip] : By 2.5 Sun seems to have made Solaris 2 nearly as useable as SunOS 4.x was 5 : years ago. As long as you've got an SS-20 with 128MB of memory to run it on, : it plods along OK (assuming you aren't masochistic enough to run CDE; that : crawls dog-slow even on a top-end box). A SS-20 with 128MB's "plods" along OK? I guess everyone in comp.unix.solaris runs SS20's with a minimum of 128MB's? : So yeah, 2.5 is OK, I can live with it; like any other non-standard, : ill-maintained OS, I load all the GNU SW into /usr/local/bin, put that at : the front of my path, and it doesn't hurt too badly. And some things are : nicer than SunOS 4.x. Of course these things, like System V init, shadow : passwords, etc can be hacked in to 4.x in reasonable time. It's a criminal : shame that they abandoned a good OS for a foul one; they've pissed away many : years, and still have loads of awful problems. : Just think; if sun had stuck with a good OS (SunOS 3) when they had it, they : could be shipping something as nice as FreeBSD now. It's a real shame. ^^^^^^^ Now we get to the real problem. Keep the BSD flame alive. I'm sure when Bill Joy finishes up with that Java thing he'll come by to relive the glory days of being a hacke circa 1980. Last I heard FreeBSD doesn't handle SMP which would do Sun alot of good selling multi-cpu machines. Not to mention Cray. If that was the case we'd be all waiting another 2 years until PIXAR finished the rendering using single CPU Sun machines ;)