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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!hermes.is.co.za!news.vector.co.za!durban.vector.co.za!gavin From: gavin@durban.vector.co.za (Gavin Maltby) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Date: 15 Jan 1996 17:34:32 GMT Organization: The Vector Group Lines: 47 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4de378$2rl@durban.vector.co.za> References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4cu7t0$mg5@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <JIM.96Jan12142722@dewar.cs.strath.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: durban.vector.co.za X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1973 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2118 comp.unix.solaris:57281 comp.unix.aix:68756 Jim Reid (jim@cs.strath.ac.uk) wrote: : In article <DL29Az.Ax2@ftel.co.uk> I.G.Batten@ftel.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes: : Fair enough. However, application speed is not the big factor : here. [For starters, SunOS would be a *lot* faster if Mr. Sun expended : as much effort on it as they do fixing their self-inflicted problems : in Slowlaris.] The major concern I have is all the gratuitous SvsVR4 : cruft that gets in the way of administering the system: the brain-dead : and truly horrid print spooler, SAF ('nuf said), all the rc.? crap, : the "-plumb" argument to ifconfig (WHY??), inittab and run levels, : etc, etc. I won't defend the print spooler (of course, SunOS 4 had a truly primitive print implementation that you really had to hack to get to do something out-of-the-ordinary). The SAF really is very powerful, albeit with an awful command-line structure (but surely SunOS 4 fans find that appealing!). The rc.? "crap", inittab and run-levels are far superior to the SunOS 4 rivals, though they may seem a little to well distributed for easy admin by some. How can the -plumb argument (open interface device and setup the STREAMs required) really be a serious cause to dislike Solaris 2? : Well not the arguments from me. Rather than fix something that was : broken, Sun (and all the other vendors) have broken something that was : fixed. This is the biggest complaint I have about Solaris: there's a : lot of pain for no real gain - apart from the artificial benefit of : getting an OS for the latest Sun kit that Sun won't let run SunOS. There is a whole lot to gain. The religious war derives from whether the benefits should have been derived from the old SunOS 4 based kernel or through first switching to SVR4. Gavin -- . /| The / | Vector / | Group --------------------------------------- /\ |____ Gavin Maltby, Vector Durban / \/| | Email: gavin@durban.vector.co.za \ \| | Tel: INT+ 27 31 266 9948 \ | / Fax: INT+ 27 31 266 0811 \ | / Note: I speak for myself, and not \ | / necessarily for Vector or Sun! \|/ -------------------------------------- " Sun Partner in South Africa