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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.isp.net!news.kjsl.com!news.irbs.com!davsys.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!bry Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris Subject: Re: Is BSD dead? Message-ID: <bryDLG5As.KIq@netcom.com> From: bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:06:28 GMT Sender: bry@netcom14.netcom.com Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <30F8483A.7187@commerce.uq.edu.au> <DL7yHA.K98@metrics.com> <bryDL90q4.AB2@netcom.com> <DLEKtp.CIG@metrics.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Lines: 39 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2065 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2222 comp.unix.solaris:57925 Tom Haapanen (tomh@metrics.com) wrote: : >: David Bellamy <bellamy@commerce.uq.edu.au> writes: : >:> BSD derived systems are pretty well dead (yes I'm sure there is an : >:> exception, somewhere) but most mainstream suppliers now are using SVR4 : >:> derived systems. : > Tom Haapanen (tomh@metrics.com) wrote: : >: You just "forgot" about BSDI, FreeBSD and NetBSD, didn't you? They still : >: look amazingly live to me ... : bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) writes: : > Not compared to Linux! Their are alot of talented BSD people who could : > be helping the Linux group but instead just in the UNIX tradition you : > have all these different variants of free UNIX. : So you believe that BSDI should just shut down the company and have their : employees work on Linux for free, then? BSDI is commercial and should continue in their niche market providing a supported, high quality BSD for those who want/need it. The day there is no longer a need, is the day BSDI will have to decide as a company what to do. As for the *BSD people, why two camps(FreeBSd and NetBSD)? I do think it would be good if the Linux & *BSD camps got together on one common OS. Maybe someday it will happen who knows. Alot of time is spent implementing something that is already implemented in another free OS. : > Luckily Caldera choose Linux as most people are, and more importantly : > Linux trys to be POSIX compliant meaning their is no BSD or SYSV bias! : No, there is a Linux bias. :) More than half of the "different variants : of free UNIX" are different Linux versions. No matter what Linux you have, the kernel was done by the linux kernel group which Linus oversees. So you either have a 1.2x kernel or a 1.3x (development) kernel. Caldera is based on RedHat Software's which uses the latest 1.2x kernel.