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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!ames!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!ns.etri.re.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.cais.net!primus.ac.net!news.serv.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!zib-berlin.de!tpki.toppoint.de!rimki.toppoint.de!chrimek Date: 27 Jan 1996 22:53:00 +0100 From: chrimek@rimki.toppoint.de (Christoph Rimek) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.mail.elm Message-ID: <61elUjEZo$B@rimki.toppoint.de> References: <4e34av$fin@tzlink.j51.com> Subject: Re: Elm does not like me :( X-Newsreader: CrossPoint v3.1 R/C6513 Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V. Reply-To: chrimek@toppoint.de Lines: 30 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:13252 comp.mail.elm:18516 Hello In article <4e34av$fin@tzlink.j51.com>, bspring (bspring@j51.com) wrote: > [...] > Trying to read mailbox while receiving mail #x where x is a number of > tries. > > Then it bombs and says, please try again later. ... My eperiences under NetBSD 1.x: Specify only one of the locking methods fcntl() or flock(), they seem to be mutually exclusive. I preferred the old BSD-like flock(), not the SystemV-like fcntl(). In addition to your choice you may (and should) choose the .lock method. BSD does neither have nor need the SystemV tool newgrp to change the group you are in - all the time you are in all groups you are listed in in /etc/group. But you have to tell elm to compile in a way where no change_group-function is available. The permissions have to be set according to the elm README, /var/mail has group write permission and elm itself uses sgid. -cr -- Christoph Rimek, Kiel, Germany (+49 431 57601) chrimek@toppoint.de