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From: rfg@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison)
Date: 30 Jan 1996 19:28:37 -0800
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In article <ybag3ojfai.fsf@bacon.csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
Rob McMahon <cudcv@bacon.csv.warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
>In article <JIM.96Jan12142722@dewar.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim
>Reid) writes: 
>
>> The major concern I have is all the gratuitous SvsVR4 cruft that gets in the
>> way of administering the system: the brain-dead and truly horrid print
>> spooler, SAF ('nuf said), all the rc.? crap, the "-plumb" argument to
>> ifconfig (WHY??), inittab and run levels, etc, etc.
>
>I can't let that go by.  sacadm, pmadm et al are all truly horrific, and
>should be thrown away in favour of nice, easy to manage configuration files.
>I think my favourite is
>
>pmadm -a -p tcp -s lpd -i root -m `nlsadmin -o /var/spool/lp/fifos/listenBSD
>	-A '\0x00020203000000000000000000000000'` -v `nlsadmin -V`
>
>You what ?

I agree.  Pmadm is a travesty... mostly because the *&^%$# man pages for
it fail to document which files it is operating on, and what it is actually
doing to those files.

It took me a fair amount of time to figure out which files pmadm was
actually diddling, but once I did, I began to just edit those files
directly with vi, and I was finally happy.

pmadm... yet another example of someone's misplaced idea of where and
how to make a ``user friendly'' interface.
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