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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!monkeys.com!monkeys.com!not-for-mail From: rfg@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Date: 30 Jan 1996 19:28:37 -0800 Organization: Infinite Monkeys & Co. Lines: 34 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4emnl5$41d@segfault.monkeys.com> References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <DL29Az.Ax2@ftel.co.uk> <JIM.96Jan12142722@dewar.cs.strath.ac.uk> <ybag3ojfai.fsf@bacon.csv.warwick.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: segfault.monkeys.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2231 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2366 comp.unix.solaris:59692 comp.unix.aix:70569 In article <ybag3ojfai.fsf@bacon.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, Rob McMahon <cudcv@bacon.csv.warwick.ac.uk> wrote: >In article <JIM.96Jan12142722@dewar.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim >Reid) writes: > >> The major concern I have is all the gratuitous SvsVR4 cruft that gets in the >> way of administering the system: the brain-dead and truly horrid print >> spooler, SAF ('nuf said), all the rc.? crap, the "-plumb" argument to >> ifconfig (WHY??), inittab and run levels, etc, etc. > >I can't let that go by. sacadm, pmadm et al are all truly horrific, and >should be thrown away in favour of nice, easy to manage configuration files. >I think my favourite is > >pmadm -a -p tcp -s lpd -i root -m `nlsadmin -o /var/spool/lp/fifos/listenBSD > -A '\0x00020203000000000000000000000000'` -v `nlsadmin -V` > >You what ? I agree. Pmadm is a travesty... mostly because the *&^%$# man pages for it fail to document which files it is operating on, and what it is actually doing to those files. It took me a fair amount of time to figure out which files pmadm was actually diddling, but once I did, I began to just edit those files directly with vi, and I was finally happy. pmadm... yet another example of someone's misplaced idea of where and how to make a ``user friendly'' interface. -- -- Ron Guilmette, Roseville, CA -------- Infinite Monkeys & Co. ------------ ---- E-mail: rfg@monkeys.com ----------- Purveyors of Compiler Test Suites - ------ Copyright (c) 1996 by Ronald F. Guilmette; All rights reserved. -----