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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!goliath.apana.org.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.cis.okstate.edu!news.ksu.ksu.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: async or sync metadata [was: FreeBSD v. Linux] Date: 13 Feb 1996 01:33:56 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4fopq4$ahl@park.uvsc.edu> References: <4er9hp$5ng@orb.direct.ca> <4f9skh$2og@dyson.iquest.net> <DMI5Mt.768@pe1chl.ampr.org> <4fi6gq$3tr@dyson.iquest.net> <4fjodc$o8j@venger.snds.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:13672 comp.os.linux.development.system:17213 grif@hill.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith) wrote: ] Very hard indeed. Here it is one more time: ] ] sync metadata with async data is not just slower, ] it is LESS SAFE. This behavour should not be the default ] on any reasonable system. If you want real safety, ] then both data and meta need to be synchronous (i.e. no ] buffer cache for writes). This real safety comes with ] an huge performance hit (as in MSDOS). You don't know what you are talking about. I have referenced both papers and mathematical models for file system recovery to refute this specious claim. The only thing I have seen from the opposition is bind assertion. Blind assertion is not proof. Can you please reference Usenix, Bell Technical Journal, or other academic publications/sources for your claims? Thank you, Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.