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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!apollo.hp.com!lf.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!col.hp.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!rankin From: rankin@ewl.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTBSD - 4.4BSD For NeXTstep machines ? Date: 7 Feb 1996 07:19:17 GMT Organization: UK Microlabs -- Engineering Workstation Laboratory Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4f9jpl$nnh@t3.mscf.uky.edu> References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: windsor.ewl.uky.edu X-Disclaimer: Unless explicitely stated within the text of this message, the contents of this message do not represent the opinions of the University of Kentucky, UK Microlabs, UKMSCF, or UKCC. X-Personality-Type: INTJ Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.sys.next.misc:38819 comp.sys.next.programmer:22901 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2245 comp.sys.next.advocacy:32897 In article <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>, Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote: }On 4 Feb 1996, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: }> Again, I'd reiterate that I'd love to run a modern OS on my black next }> hardware. There is no requirement, for me at least, that it run }> existing NeXTSTEP applications, or host OPENSTEP. All I'm looking for }> is a stock 4.4BSD based OS, like NetBSD. }I second this. It'd be awfully nice if there was /dev/audio support to }make the DSP do its thing, but it isn't really necessary. NeXT's software }offerings are completely uninteresting. }It would also open up the possibility of running real Web browsers, }instead of trash like OmniWeb. When a dinky 68030 Mac PowerBook 165c does }a better job on the Web than an "insanely great" NEXTSTEP system, that }says something very sad. I'm a NetBSD bigot myself, so I can't really say TOO much about OmniWeb, except that ANYTHING is better than Nutscape. :) Even so, NetBSD/next68k would be a win for a lot of people, esp. those who have another NetBSD/m68k box in their clutches. I for one like the idea of a NetBSD/next68k port because it'd allow me to use the same binaries as my Mac IIsi uses. Plus, black box hardware can't be easily beaten. :) In fact, I've seen this thread going on enough in NetBSD areas to suspect a critical mass of people exists for starting a porting effort. If you are willing to put some amount of time and/or resources into a NetBSD/next68k port, Email me at rankin@ewl.uky.edu, and let me know. If enough people who can code will, we might just get the thing off the ground. :) Also, if anyone is already working on a port, please let me know. David -- David W. Rankin, Jr. Technical Support, Engineering Workstation Laboratory rankin@ewl.uky.edu PGP Key via http://www.ewl.uky.edu/rankin/key.asc Alphanumeric Pager: rankin-pager@ewl.uky.edu or (606) 330-4922 Seen on a California license plate on a VW Beetle recently: "FEATURE"