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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!koala.uwec.edu!daffy.anetsrvcs.uwrf.edu!cakerwood!not-for-mail From: bl03@uwrf.edu (BENJAMIN A LINDSTROM) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: The better (more suitable)Unix?? FreeBSD or Linux Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:37:32 GMT Lines: 35 Message-ID: <4fd8sc$cep@daffy.anetsrvcs.uwrf.edu> References: <4er9hp$5ng@orb.direct.ca> <311250C2.2781E494@public.uni-hamburg.de> <strenDM7Gr4.Cn2@netcom.com> <DMD8rr.oIB@isil.lloke.dna.fi> <4f9skh$2og@dyson.iquest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cakerwood.acc.uwrf.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950726BETA PL0] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:13930 comp.os.linux.development.system:17522 John S. Dyson (root@dyson.iquest.net) wrote: : In article <DMD8rr.oIB@isil.lloke.dna.fi>, : Riku Saikkonen <rjs@spider.compart.fi> wrote: : >... : >>about becuase some scripts I cooked up to thread a www archive of a : >>couple of newsgroups takes an hour to make an index with about 1700 articles. : > : FreeBSD is sensitive to the order in which you do the stat. Those problems : are being worked. You'll quickly see which one performs the best when : the systems are under heavy load. : : > : >So it might be more the program you're using (unless you use enough memory : >to swap the thing out). Mine is a single C program of about 800 lines... : > : Yep, FreeBSD is sensitive to that. : : > : >There's one thing I've been wondering about... From what I've seen, FreeBSD : >seems to default to fscking the drive every night, while Linux defaults to : >every 15th (? something like that) reboot. However, in my two years of : >running Linux, I've never found a filesystem error except for the few times : >when I rebooted non-cleanly. Is the FreeBSD filesystem more prone to errors : >or are the distribution-makers just more paranoid? : > : Linux is more vulnerable to filesystem problems due to the delayed writes : of metadata (and is the reason that FreeBSD is slower on file : create/delete benchmarks.) We added an async option to our FSes to make : the system perform much faster, but with similar risk as Linux has. The : fsck's at night are a *mistake* and should be removed. : The vulnerablity must be in tolerable range. I've yet to lost information with Linux, except on a "known" unstable harddrive (It was something we used in one of our machines, and tiptoped around it...OS changes would not have made a different)