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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!col.hp.com!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Date: 11 Feb 1996 01:30:48 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 45 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4fjgs8$t8v@park.uvsc.edu> References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4cu7t0$mg5@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <4cv8j1$59k@park.uvsc.edu> <4dg4uq$dl2@sungy.Germany.Sun.COM> <4dh5ab$58b@cypress.nwnet.net> <4dhfjn$4rl@park.uvsc.edu> <4digkr$83u@mail.fwi.uva.nl> <4e6o44$4rd@park.uvsc.edu> <4eeiqf$68f@diablo.cet.co.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2274 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2410 comp.unix.solaris:60453 comp.unix.aix:71014 Michael Hancock <michaelh@cet.co.jp> wrote: ] To me, Novell symbolized the end of the legal intimidation era over SYSV ] and BSD. The back off by Novell was a consent decree -- an out of court settlement. It does not preclude future suits. Those of us who were pro-BSD Novell USG employees at the time fought long and hard with our management to the Vice Predisent level to get even that. The agreement allowed a transition window to BSDI. There was no such transition window afforded (initially; it was instated post-facto) to the free camps: they were left under the "cease and desisit" order letter that USL sent out *after* its purchase by Novell. The consent agreement included agreement to not distribute key files from 6 kernel subsystems in the forthcoming 4.4BSD-Lite release. Luckily, these files were a moderately easy rewrite (it was obvious by choice of files that the intent was to prevent a bootable system). It probably would not have been nearly so easy if they had in fact contained USL intellectual property, as had been claimed. ] Does SCO have any history of legal bullying? I don't know; if they keep seperate counsel as a business unit, the former USL, former Novell/USG *does* have such a history in their move from AT&T to Novell ownership. This has gotten very tangential, even if the history is an interesting discussion from the point of view that most of the people involved are bound by non-disclosure as part of the agreement. The history can only be inferred from the reports of those with near-involvement. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.