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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!chi-news.cic.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!ub!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsserver.sdsc.edu!acsc.com!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!pell.pell.chi.il.us!there.is.no.cabal From: orc@pell.chi.il.us (Orc) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: async or sync metadata [was: FreeBSD v. Linux] Date: 14 Feb 1996 18:45:25 -0800 Organization: By the Holy Claws of Klortho the Magnificent, this IS a fine morning! Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4fu6o5$1uk@pell.pell.chi.il.us> References: <4er9hp$5ng@orb.direct.ca> <4fi6gq$3tr@dyson.iquest.net> <4fjodc$o8j@venger.snds.com> <4fopq4$ahl@park.uvsc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pell.pell.chi.il.us Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:14423 comp.os.linux.development.system:18095 In article <4fopq4$ahl@park.uvsc.edu>, Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> wrote: >grif@hill.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith) wrote: >] Very hard indeed. Here it is one more time: >] >] sync metadata with async data is not just slower, >] it is LESS SAFE. This behavour should not be the default >] on any reasonable system. If you want real safety, >] then both data and meta need to be synchronous (i.e. no >] buffer cache for writes). This real safety comes with >] an huge performance hit (as in MSDOS). > >You don't know what you are talking about. I have referenced >both papers and mathematical models for file system recovery >to refute this specious claim. The only thing I have seen from >the opposition is bind assertion. Blind assertion is not proof. Can you cite a paper or two, please, so we can contact the authors or their sponsoring organizations to get a copy? ____ david parsons \bi/ Ce n'est pas bizarre. Visitez le volcan, si vous plait. \/