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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!ames!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: need secure OS to entrust millions to Date: 13 Mar 1996 01:58:43 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4i5a4j$ggt@park.uvsc.edu> References: <4gi6t6$3h9@lace.colorado.edu> <1996Feb25.152559.8977@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <4gvchb$ln5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4h7rdd$qeu@park.uvsc.edu> <4hi93v$qas@keltia.freenix.fr> <4hsv73$d3h@park.uvsc.edu> <Do45Gu.1y@giskard.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:91528 comp.os.linux.development.system:19260 comp.os.linux.networking:31527 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2635 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2450 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:15380 dale@giskard.demon.co.uk (Dale Shuttleworth) wrote: ] Then there are very few systems where the search space cannot be ] determined (I can't think of any - if there are, they would have ] some rather interesting characteristics). You seem to be saying ] that DES, IDEA, RSA and even the one time pad are all alogrithms ] which rely on security through obscurity. No, actually I wouldn't include the one time pad. Actually, my point was that RSA is not "security through secrecy"; if we want to "get real", ] Your argument is quite irrefutible if you don't use the meaning ] usually attached to "security through obscurity". Actually, my point was that RSA is not "security through secrecy"; if we want to "get real", it's security through an assumption of computational difficulty. And that assumes that you are better at computing (in the calculation sense) than your opponent. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.