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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!newshost.nla.gov.au!act.news.telstra.net!psgrain!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!ns2.mainstreet.net!news2.isp.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!er7.rutgers.edu!not-for-mail From: kenn@eden.rutgers.edu (Ken Nakata) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: NetBSD/68k question Date: 12 Mar 1996 00:00:08 -0500 Organization: Rutgers University Lines: 73 Message-ID: <4i30co$4g7@er7.rutgers.edu> References: <4h0uba$oek@news.interpath.net> <spiritwalker-0403961934530001@pnthrmdn.resnova.com> <russ-0503960750010001@seismo.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: er7.rutgers.edu russ@seismo.demon.co.uk (Russ Evans) writes: ] In article <spiritwalker-0403961934530001@pnthrmdn.resnova.com>, ] spiritwalker@pop.resnova.com (James D. Skee) wrote: ] > Its more or less true. I tried installing it on my Quadra 650, and the ] > Booter program warned me that I was attempting to install it on an ] > "untested" Mac. Proceeding and hoping, it crashed. Q650 isn't supported yet. It's got exotic (to us, anyway) ADB and SCSI chips, etc. ] > Then I tried to install ] > it on my IIcx, a Mac which was in the "will work" list. The Installer ] > utility crashed everytime I attempted to mount a separate filesystem, and That's because, just like Russ said below, Installer needs more memory than given to it by default. You can avoid this error by giving it more memory. Also, be sure to install System 7 or later, Connectix's MODE32 (v7.5 works with any System 7), enable 32-bit address mode, and disable virtual memory in the Memory control panel. ] i. The MacBSD development folks don't seem to comment much in Usenet fora; ] they are however, very accessible via their mailing lists. Grab a copy ] of their archives from the NetBSD or puma machines. Lots of useful ] material there! The address of "puma machine" is puma.bevd.blacksburg.va.us. Try http://puma.bevd.blacksburg.va.us/ for a starter. ] ii. PPP works fine on MacBSD. Not terribly well documented, however. I'm working on integrating IIJ PPP into NetBSD to support dial-on-demand. ] iii. The will/won't work list seems to be a little out of date. My IIvi ] is in the 'serial' list, and produces the 'untested' warning, but in fact, ] there were zero problems (at least, none attributable to MacBSD!) There ] is a well-documented bug with the installer utility as distributed, which ] is that it doesn't grab enough Mac memory. Give it more using the 'Get ] Info' box -- it crashed on me, first time I tried. That said, I don't ] recall that the installer is able to mount more than the root filesystem. ] Why would you want to? There's a better interface to the work/don't-work list. You can use a search engine on puma. http://puma.bevd.blacksburg.va.us/~spearce is the URL. ] iv. There's an updated version of the kernel (netbsd.GENERIC_52.tar.gz, ] dated late January) which includes some bugfixes, and might be worth ] getting and overlaying on top of or alongside the 1.1 distribution ] kernel. I get the impression most of the bugfixes are associated with ] the serial ports. They are on puma, too. Anon-ftp to puma, and go to pub/NetBSD directory. ] v. IIRC, the mailing list includes mention from the developers that they ] have at least partially operating systems running on 040 machines. There's ] hope for your Quadra yet! What's IIRC? ] Bottom line: give MacBSD another try -- it sounds like you were almost up ] and running on your IIcx, and it's worth the effort. IIcx should run NetBSD/mac68k without any trouble. In fact, puma is a IIcx running NetBSD/mac68k! ken -- Ken Nakata . . . . Cook College, Rutgers - The State University of New Jersey http://remus.rutgers.edu/~kenn/, ftp://remus.rutgers.edu/pub/NetBSD/index.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense." -- John McCarthy