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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!nordwest.pop.de!uniol!news From: Thomas.Weihrich@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE (Thomas Weihrich) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Why to not buy Matrox Millennium Date: 25 Mar 96 12:46:58 GMT Organization: C. v. Ossietzky Universitaet Oldenburg - Fachbereich Informatik Lines: 56 Message-ID: <4j64rj$ii@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <4j36ev$prl@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> <stephenkDosrBD.D0@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rutil.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de Keywords: Matrox Millennium X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:13568 comp.os.linux.development.system:19882 comp.os.linux.x:27415 comp.os.linux.hardware:34116 comp.os.linux.setup:46823 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:272 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2741 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2525 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:15881 stephenk@netcom.com (Stephen Knilans) writes: >In article <4j36ev$prl@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Thomas.Weihrich@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE (Thomas Weihrich) writes: >>pmcdermo@cs.utexas.edu (Peter F. McDermott) writes: >> >Are matrox cards sold as VGA or SVGA compatible? If they ARE, and this info >is NEEDED to use them as such, then they are guilty of FRAUD! They are >honor bound to disseminate such info. FURTHER, the card could be reverse >engineered WITHOUT knowledg of how it works! The BIOS is even EASIER to >reverse engineer. They do work as VGA cards and you don't need any further info internal specs in order to use them as VGA cards. Accusing Matrox of fraud is just a litte bit off the scale. >As for adaptec? They DID and DO give out driver info! So WHAT if they don't >give out schematics? They arent' needed to use the card! Read the license agreement that comes with Adaptec chipset documentation. Matrox does hand out internal chipset information if you choose to sign a non disclosure agreement and point out that Matrox will profit from handing out the information. >The Xinside server is WORTHLESS in this regard. If you want to write >software that is able to run WITHOUT X, then the SVGA and VGA specs show >how to do it. If they don't work, it is NOT a VGA compliant card, and THAT is >what people thought and WERE TOLD that they were buying. Like I said, FRAUD! You are missing the point. The discussion is about whether Matrox should hand out programming info on their 3d accelerator or not. No one ever doubted that Matrox cards are usable as simple VGA cards. Read before you post. Thomas -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Weihrich | NIC-Handle TW166 Thomas.Weihrich@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE | _ Thomas.Weihrich@WWWA.ORG | /_/__ _ | (_/(__)==== \ ------------------------------------------------| ,-,\%=] ,-,\[ | ( O )## ( O ) Ban |--------'-'-----'-'---------- Solaris, | Dude | Steed = '90 K100 LT | #include <std_disclaimer.h> ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------