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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!vic.news.telstra.net!act.news.telstra.net!psgrain!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!newshub.csu.net!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!spunky.RedBrick.COM!nntp.et.byu.edu!cwis.isu.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Why to not buy Matrox Millennium Date: 28 Mar 1996 03:55:02 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 33 Message-ID: <4jd2im$19u@park.uvsc.edu> References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <4j3muv$34m@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4j3v64$1rq@virtech.aib.com> <4j7dg2$t3t@moacs11.moacs.indiv.nl.net> <4j8s8a$q8b@newstand.syr.edu> <4j93n1$4jj@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <31598846.6584@vfr.interceptor.com> <4jc6iv$pbj@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:13953 comp.os.linux.development.system:20398 comp.os.linux.x:28201 comp.os.linux.hardware:35039 comp.os.linux.setup:48340 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:389 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2909 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2680 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:16401 erik@fenris.campus.vt.edu () wrote: ] I *know* that clean room dissassembly of software is legal. ] ] If I wanted to make a clone of windows, I could do so, perfectly legally. ] Here's how: ] ] I give one group of people a bunch of machines with windows, with ] sophisticated debuggers, disassemblers, lots of time. They find out everything ] about how the interface is implemented. ] ] Then, _the interface_ is given to another team of people. These people ] have never seen the code for windows ( in my example ), and they can write ] based on that code. The result: a clone of Windows, perfectly legal. ] ] This is how a lot of clone chips are created, to ensure compatibility. ] Likewise, how clone makers made BIOS chips from systems once the BIOS was ] no longer included. ] ] ] I am not sure whether or not this is needed to write a X server. If it would ] make people happier, I am sure that it could be arranged that way. ] ] I am curious -- is there anyone actually WILLING TO DO THIS? Or are we all ] just arguing about the academic issue of whether or not it SHOULD be done? No, there isn't, or Wine would work already. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.