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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com!newshost.convex.com!news.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!agis!news3.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!scicom!zebra!vern From: vern@zebra.alphacdc.com (Vern Hoxie) Subject: Re: Sometimes you need X server source (Was: Why to not buy Matrox Millennium) Message-ID: <Dp7qIJ.C8H@zebra.alphacdc.com> Organization: Denver, Colo. Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 02:20:43 GMT References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <4ja28c$9da@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4jb67e$eil@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <4jc1cv$ja4@library.erc.clarkson.edu> Lines: 51 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:13978 comp.os.linux.development.system:20446 comp.os.linux.x:28235 comp.os.linux.hardware:35078 comp.os.linux.setup:48424 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:396 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:2919 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2692 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:16428 In article <4jc1cv$ja4@library.erc.clarkson.edu>, Mark Komarinski <komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> wrote: >erik@fenris.campus.vt.edu wrote: Deletions ... >: Not that Xinside is bad.. if money can be made off software, I don't blame >: people for doing so. But for students with limited budgets and hobbyists >: with even more limited budgets, and everyone wanting to tweak their systems, >: Xinside doesn't meet their needs. Xinside is good for those who want a >: system that comes up out of the box.. Windows 95, OS/2, etc, all meet these >: same needs. > >I have AccelX and am quite happy with it for two reasons: >1) I can run my Mach-32 card in 64k colors. XF86 can't. >2) It is faster than XF86. Yes you can't use your Mach-32 with XF86 nor can I because ATI and AST are as paranoid about others finding out what secrets they have stolen. The real thievery is by buying the developers themselves as employees. >Those were my two requirements when I bought AccelX, and it met those >requirements. If your requirements are different than that, that's your >choice. I bought a machine which was supposed to have particular capabilities. But those capabilities are restricted by the lack of interface information. Even when I spend extra money for their half-witted manuals, I still can't realize the capability I purchased. Isn't fraud the failure to fulfill promised results? >: And as the students/hobbyists of the world, we have the talents and the >: skills and the dedication to reverse engineer just about any software >: out there. > >The legality is a bit fuzzy :), but go for it. Won't society be better served if these efforts could be devoted to new knowledge instead of having to decipher something known and paid for? All this secrecy is really the result of MBA's and LLD's strutting around trying to justify their existence. vern -- Vernon C. Hoxie scicom!zebra!vern 3975 W. 29th Ave. vern@zebra.alphacdc.com Denver, Colo., 80212 uucp: 303-455-2670 voice: 303-477-1780 Unix is what MSDOS will be when it grows up.