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From: jafo@ariel.tummy.com (Sean Reifschneider)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Why *I'M* not happy with XInside's Matrox support (was Re: Sometimes you need X server source)
Date: 30 Mar 96 16:19:02 GMT
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In article <4jhl5p$59t@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Duncan Napier <napier@theory.chem.ubc.ca> wrote:
>In article <ROELL.96Mar28184328@blah.xinside.com> roell@xinside.com (Thomas Roell) writes:
>>> Lets say I wanted to disable TCP connects to the X server because I am using
>>> a standalone PC with a network connection. Can I do that with Xinside?
>>
>>Yes, there are options which allow you to do exactly this. And if it
>>wouldn't then there is a new binary within a day if there are special
>>requirements like this. Remember that you pay for the product and
>>therefor get support.
>>[stuff deleted]
>
>This would constitute an extrordinary level of customer support, the likes of
> which I have never personally encountered ... I'll give Xinside the benefit of
> the doubt here.
Yeah, the theory is that you spend $100 and get customer support. However,
theory and reality rarely meet. I've had the XInside server for about 3 months
now, running on a Matrox Millenium board. It has never worked to my
satisfaction, and I'm NOT hard to please. I don't feel it's too much to ask
that the server not sporadically thrash the font cache, and not leave
garbage behind on the screen when I move a window.
3 months ago when I got Accelerated X, they said they were working on a fix.
I finally got a fix a couple of weeks ago. It's better (in that I don't have
corrupted characters showing up for every 10 minutes of typing), but it
still happens all too frequently. When I asked about a free upgrade to
Accelerated X 1.3, I was flamed by one of their represenatives asking why
I expected a free upgrade and did I expect to be given a new car when the
new model year comes out. Besides, "1.3 doesn't have better Matrox support
than the latest 1.2 patch".
I flamed him back saying that if I had a car that failed once in every 10
minutes of use I would most definately expect the manufacturer to fix it for
free. That was two weeks ago, and despite my requests for further information
on the problem and any timelines on when it will be fixed, I've not heard
ANYTHING from XInside. But, they offered to give me a refund if I wasn't
happy -- I'll probably be doing that and getting the latest RedHat with
MetroX (for $49, can't beat that).
So far, XInside hasn't impressed me...
>Can you qualify this with some benchmark results (or point us the way to some)?
> I'm not trying to be the peanut gallery here, but I would be interested to
> see some evidence for this.
As far as performance, I've come nowhere near the 750K XStones that was
promised by XInside's advert, they must have been running some funky
mode... In practice, the Matrox is quite fast, even when running 24bpp.
Certainly much quicker than my Mach64 with VRAM. Both on a 133MHz P5.
Sean
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Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo@tummy.com>
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