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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 01:46:10 -0800
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CC: nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu
Nick Kralevich wrote:
> Standard *BSD argument style: Attack the person, not the argument.
> *sigh*
I am tempted to cite in turn that the Linux argument style is to attack
a completely irrelevant point and claim some sort of "victory" in the
process ("our ls has color, yours doesn't - Linux is superior. QED.")
but I think that this is more YOUR style than one that could be more
generally attributed to Linux advocates, so I'm not going to tar all of
those poor folks with the same brush.
More to the point, your repeated arguments are not the issue here. YOU
are the issue here and so it's therefore more than reasonable to attack
you rather that whatever banner you happen to be flying at the moment.
I've watched your posts for many weeks now and it's readily obvious that
you're on some sort of weird crusade against FreeBSD, taking any and all
opportunities to slam us over points real or imagined. Why bother?
What's your motivation for all this? To be constructive? You're hardly
doing that. You strike me more as the kind of guy that, had he an
interest in cars instead of operating systems, would be out with the
Ford fanatics yelling "Chevy!" just to tweak their tails.
If such behavior gets you whacked, then you've really very little excuse
to cry that you're the abused victim. You go out of your way to annoy
and fly your colors where they're not appropriate (and, last I checked,
Linux had its OWN groups for such advocacy) so you shouldn't pretend to
be surprised when someone tells you to **** off and peddle your personal
agenda somewhere else.
Nick, just GO AWAY! You've more than amply demonstrated yourself to be
a worthless pest who's not out to accomplish anything constructive here
and I'm hardly the only one who finds you more irritating than
enlightening. Your latest crusade about ELF is simply more of the same
politics wrapped in a thin guise of technical advocacy. We've already
more than amply explained that we'll go to ELF when we're good and
ready, that ELF does not buy us enough over a.out to make a move
reasonable or wise right now and that we've been maintaining our own
tools for over a year and hardly sit up nights thinking about hacking on
the C compiler. We have more than enough on our plates which is *far
more important* than ELF vs a.out, we understand the priorities very
well after 3 years of doing this and you really don't know what you're
talking about when you make these lofty pronouncements about our
attitudes or agendas with regard to ELF. We're well aware of the issues
here, we've got people doing the research to prepare for the *option* of
ELF in the future and we don't need some student with less time in
computer science than most of us have spent mowing our lawns telling us
what's important and what's not! Go back to your Linux groups, have a
nice life, leave us alone! Stop wasting our (and your) time!
Thanks!
--
- Jordan Hubbard
President, FreeBSD Project