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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!solace!nntp.uio.no!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!panix!not-for-mail From: bryan@panix.com (Bryan Althaus) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.sys5.misc,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.unix.xenix.misc Subject: Re: Trying to research UNIX OS Followup-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.sys5.misc,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.unix.xenix.misc Date: 8 Apr 1996 11:28:51 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 17 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4kbbbj$69p@panix.com> References: <Dp1KLC.398@nvc.cc.ca.us> <4jop28$bmp@badger.wmin.ac.uk> <DpDGwG.J9J@in.irs.gov> <3165E743.2F3A@cet.co.jp> <DpGABu.1p4@telly.telly.org> <4k7vep$6el@news.tiac.net> <3169495E.7536@cet.co.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.admin:40431 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:516 comp.unix.bsd.misc:682 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2866 comp.unix.misc:21915 comp.unix.osf.misc:3007 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:9164 comp.unix.sco.misc:16007 comp.unix.solaris:65516 comp.unix.sys5.misc:978 comp.unix.ultrix:27214 comp.unix.unixware.misc:12023 comp.unix.xenix.misc:1103 : > : > And you do have to consider that Sun provides CDE "as is", as they are : > still gambling on Openwin. I found CDE to be very flaky on a Ultra Sparc : > 3D running Solaris 2.5. Not sure what is meant by "as is". They have a full group dedicated to CDE, and it is only a 1.0 release, well 1.0.1. As for gambling on Openwin. They just can't get rid of it but will have to phase it out. There are alot of customers using Openwin even if they are running Motif (mwm) as I was. Solaris 2.6, slated for end of year will have CDE as the default provided customers are OK with this. As for X-Inside, they are very close with SunSoft and provide driver support for Solaris Intel. You will see alot of Sun's CDE people when comp.unix.cde is created. 2nd call for votes is out now, so expect to see the group in 2 months time. I've been running CDE since beta 1 and while its not perfect, its _very_ useable.