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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!odin.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!rclnews.eng.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!News2.Lakes.com!usenet From: ME@gorkey.com (Gorkey) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc,alt.binaries.warez.mac,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.acorn.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.machten,comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.user-friendly Subject: Re: FIVE GOOD REASONS WHY IBM'S ARE BETTER THAN MACS (only five?) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:29:55 GMT Organization: THG Lines: 59 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4kh29p$66v@News2.Lakes.com> References: <Cyclone-0504961737500001@dial24.trip.net> <31664662.1081143@153.2.170.10> <dke-0604960729360001@adnline68.adnc.com> <31678d59.1170056@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <4k8hkj$o0u@cloner3.netcom.com> <Cyclone-0704961649290001@dial18.trip.net> Reply-To: Gorkey NNTP-Posting-Host: modem25.prairie.lakes.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/32.126 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc:33822 alt.binaries.warez.mac:2978 comp.os.linux.advocacy:44567 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:122499 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:21089 comp.os.msdos.misc:53050 comp.os.os2.advocacy:191744 comp.sys.acorn.advocacy:7790 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:98405 comp.sys.next.advocacy:34636 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:2398 comp.unix.advocacy:18748 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17031 comp.unix.bsd.misc:684 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2868 comp.unix.machten:2162 comp.unix.pc-clon e.16bit:625 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:9165 comp.unix.shell:31458 comp.unix.solaris:65530 comp.unix.user-friendly:3560 Cyclone@cycland.org (Cyclone) wrote: >In article <4k8hkj$o0u@cloner3.netcom.com>, NVekin@mit.edu (Nick Vekin) wrote: >>In article <31678d59.1170056@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, vandal@netcom.com says... >> >>1. PCs will be around long after Apple becomes an industry fable. >Apple is not dying. Plain and simple. prove it. show me last years prophits.... market shares... and stuff >>2. Only anal-retentive fag hippies use MACs. >Only pee-cee users resort to insults. I've seen a lot of insults both ways.... >>3. Expandability rocks the house (more periphs, more variety, more frequent) >More problems. Macs all look alike, and act alike, they have personality, but are not individuals, they are tools for people who probably never asked... "Buy, why does it work?" Expandability still rocks.. if you want a perfectly generic PC, there are no problems.... if you want cutting edge 3D graphics boards, and daughter boards.. If you want symmetric Multiprocessing... If you want to be able to "Tweek" your systems proformance to Hot rod potential, and not just make your own custom background pattern... IF you want more than the 7 / 15 devices apple SCSI limits you to, (just plunk in another SCSI controller)... EXPECT to learn a little something about the internals of compuetrs!!!!!! Both Systems have flaws!!!!!! A mac is too closed, cornered, simple, and generic for me... And they way compuer sales are going (and have gone since computers existed) Most people agree! I gave em a chance.... I used them in school, I used them at home... They frusterated me to the point of screaming.... then I was introduced to a 286... >>4. They are -much- cheaper to buy and upgrade. >And MUCH more expensive to maintain. I have, in five years with an >outdated LCII, never had to service *ANYTHING*. Can you say the same? I my 286 works fine still (11 years old) never serviced a thing >have the smae ImageWriter II, the same 14.4 modem (two years old), the Same 24pin printer... same 9600 modem >same AppleColor 13" monitor, the same internal 80 MB drive (I have a 1 GB same 14"ega monitor same 80 MB HDD >external, 5 months old). Never had any problems. Again, can you say the >same? Absolutley! Plain and simple the thing is as solid as a rock... it even got dropped down 2 flights of stairs when we moved.... the case is battered, but atleast it was made of metal, not... tinfoil and plastic... >>5. ALL new net-software is made for PCs (unix, linux, Win3.X/95, OS/2), and >> only -some- of it makes it to the Mac side...when the developer gets >> around to it. >Not true. NetPresenz and Adobe SiteMill & PageMill are Mac-only, the >latter are being ported "when the developer gets around to it." Oh.. so he shouldn't have said "ALL new"... let me rephrase ALL the new netsoftware people actually WANT is made for the PC (unix, linux, win, blah) - it makes to to the mac when it makes it to the mac......