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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.math.psu.edu!scramble.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: "Mr. Wizard" <madscientist@dark.mountain.stronghold> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:43:48 -0500 Organization: alt.destroy.the.earth Lines: 42 Message-ID: <316ECE94.61162F47@dark.mountain.stronghold> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <jdd.829261293@cdf.toronto.edu> <yfglok14n5r.fsf@time.cdrom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip1-34.acs.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21155 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:538 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3123 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2913 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17137 comp.os.linux.advocacy:44874 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > The result is an interface that only a programmer could love, and so > it's hardly then a surprise that only the programmers generally do. X > started out as a wonderful experiment in interoperability and has now > turned into a 10 ton millstone around UNIX's neck. Sorry, I know it's > painful, but that's the truth. Unfortunately, it's also all we've > got. > I disagree. The only thing X needs is free support for all major brands of video cards. (It has been done by AcceleratedX, but unfortunately it costs $100) (Maybe also free Motif so disk space isn't wasted.) Otherwise, X is perfect. I don't want a GUI that assumes that all users are the same and all they need is a fancy way to push the same button in all their apps. When I want a GUI I want: 1) A fast way to use graphics - so games like Descent and Doom can be run at SVGA resolution. 2) A GUI that is not built in, so memory is not wasted when a GUI is not used by an app. (Shared libs is a much more elegant way of coding a UI- when the buttons and dialog boxes are hard-coded into the OS/OE the result is Windows/Mac.) 3) Network support, especially Internet. X fits all these criteria beutifully. You assume again that every-one wants the same thing, and that is definatly the wrong approach. -- /-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\_/-\ | | | |--- | \ / | ___ | | \ / |--- ___ | | |- | \ / | /___ | | \ / |- /___ | | |--- |___ \/ | ___\ |___ | \/ |--- ___\ | | | \-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/~\-/