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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!news.cps.udayton.edu!news.engr.udayton.edu!blackbird.afit.af.mil!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!rockyd!cmcl2!news.nyu.edu!usenet From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: 12 Apr 1996 08:33:10 -0400 Organization: NYU Media Research Lab. Lines: 15 Sender: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu Message-ID: <y5aag0hfwqh.fsf@graphics.cs.nyu.edu> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <jdd.829261293@cdf.toronto.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: graphics.cs.nyu.edu In-reply-to: jdd@cdf.toronto.edu's message of Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:21:33 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21169 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:541 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3126 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2919 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17148 comp.os.linux.advocacy:44922 In article <jdd.829261293@cdf.toronto.edu> jdd@cdf.toronto.edu (John DiMarco) writes: ] What will it take? All relevant shell and file interfaces will need to be ] replaced by simple, point-and-click window-based interfaces (with sensible ] defaults), so that completely applications-oriented users can install, ] configure, and use the operating system without even having to know what a ] shell or an editor is, let alone how to use one. The old interfaces must not be "replaced by" point and click interfaces, point and click interfaces should be added. Otherwise you'll lose the old Unix user base long before you gain the new one you're going after. -- David Fox http://found.cs.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN