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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: LFS problems under FreeBSD 2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:53:01 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 106 Message-ID: <317165AD.566CF360@lambert.org> References: <4kpm2f$jj7@tecsun1.tec.army.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.misc:727 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17261 Anne Brink wrote: ] ] I'm trying, for a term project, to play with LFS under FreeBSD. ] I'm not getting very far, since I'm having trouble with my ] kernel panicking pretty much directly after I do a mount_lfs ] of the partition. What panic messages I get aren't consistent ] at this point, and I want to check to make sure my configuration's ] correct before I start having to run debuggers on kernel corefiles. ] ] The documentation in either FreeBSD or BSD4.4 is rather slight, ] so I'm not sure what to look for. ] ] I'm running: FreeBSD 2.1 on an Acer P75, 8MB RAM. The disks I'm ] using are IDE. Are you running the FreeBSD LFS, or are you running the 4.4BSD-Lite2 LFS? The FreeBSD VM system makes I/O substantially different at the FS bottom end (part of the price for not using the Heidemann FS framework as it was intended; 4.4's inclusion of the FICUS project code was a hasty hack). If your 2.1 isn't 2.1R, then you may need to back off on your verion number to a release version to get LFS to work. Note that there has ben substantial work done in the LFS code in the 4.4BSD-Lite2 release that has not yet been integrated into FReeBSD. ] Here are some questions that I hope someone can help me with. ] ] I've rebuilt the kernel with the (seemingly undocumented in ] FreeBSD) option LFS. I think it is documented in /sys/i386/conf/LINT, actually... ] Is there anything else my kernel needs built in that I'm ] likely missing? The cleaner startup. LFS requires a cleaner daemon, and the daemon is typically run in user space from the /etc/rc file. It may be required that the cleaner daemon be run before a mount -- I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure that you can only have one LFS instance at a time right now without the Lite2 code integration. Margo Seltzer has done most of the recent work on LFS (according to my sources, anyway), so you may want to contact her for more information. She was running on a vanilla 4.4BSD (not Lite), so her information will not be strictly applicable to FreeBSD, which has a unified VM and buffer cache. FreeBSD has a facility (which I hacked together as a generalization) for starting daemons from kernel space -- basically a kernel callable "fork", which is used for starting up the pagedaemon, the vmdaemon, and the update daemon. The cleaner really needs to be started and stopped this way as a result of mount so that you don't have a mount without a cleaner. At present, this would only reduce your exposure IFF the cleaner needed to be started prior to mount to provide a process context for LFS async events in the kernel. ] What should the disklabel entry look like, for the LFS partition? ] Currently, It looks identical to the 4.2BSD partitions, except ] the fs type is '4.4LFS'. Should it have 0's for blocks, etc. just ] like the 4.2BSD partitions? Generally, the disklabel is largely irrelevant (NetBSD looks at it and refuses to swap on something that isn't "swap" on Alpha's, but other than that, it's largely ignored). What's important is the raw and block device: the raw for the newfs, and the block for the mount. ] It's not clear from the manpage, when I do a newlfs, just ] which options are required, and which are optional. Sorry; it's been 8 months since I built and ran an LFS. From what I rememebr, I needed -L and -s (had to give the disk size in sectors -- newlfs should retrive this from the device via ioctl()). ] And, in a related question, does the partition need to end on ] cylinder boundaries on an IDE drive? This is a requirement of some BIOS-based boot code. If it isn't a bootable device (my root mount code actually might work on LFS; that's why I was playing with it at all), thenyou should be able to safely ignore it. Only the OS/2 and NT MBR's have a fit on cylinder alignment, AFAIK. ] Is there an FAQ out there I haven't found, yet? Nope. The best source it the maintainer, who I think is still Margo. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.