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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!hobyah.cc.uq.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!miso.cs.uq.edu.au!warwick From: warwick@cs.uq.edu.au (Warwick Allison) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: 18 Apr 1996 03:15:36 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Queensland Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4l4c4o$nuh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <DpsKyx.1Jo@catzen.gun.de> <tporczykDptpAL.8uG@netcom.com> <4l0fv9$1bfs@news.missouri.edu> <4l2u61$fdg@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: isa.cs.uq.edu.au X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21369 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:589 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3195 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3005 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17331 comp.os.linux.advocacy:45429 History has shown us so far that we developers don't want a simple interface. Hardly suprising. So we don't write one (same reason we haven't written a WhatYouSeeIsAllYouGet word/text editor). Users do, however. Fortunately, this is where commercial enterprises such as RedHat can progress the operating system towards users. [BSD'ers skip this paragraph] The GPL (and the sensibility of these GPL-aware commercial enterprises) ensures that the full drive of the Free Software developments continues to push behind that user-oriented presentation. I don't believe it is an "Opportunity facing Free Unix". I believe that the opportunities are presented to commercial enterprises (including the hardware sellers, as someone else mentioned - they'd love to have an OS they could give away with the hardware). Developers need just continue to do as we have been doing, not be distracted into *working* towards some Grand Plan. Of course, there are those among us who WANT to write WYSIWYG editors just as much as there are those who might want to produce a new release of ed(1), but that's good - lot's of activity on many fronts is what makes Free Unix so great. -- Warwick -- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.edu.au Linux: Say `No' to broken windows. / * <- Comp Sci Department, McD: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s002434/mcl.html \_.-._/ Univ. of Queensland, POV: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s002434/pov.html v Brisbane, Australia. ME: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s002434