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#! rnews 1884 bsd Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: Curious about *BSD History Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:55:48 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 26 Message-ID: <317006C4.77C0450E@lambert.org> References: <4k1nue$lm8@orb.direct.ca> <3165791B.52BFA1D7@FreeBSD.org> <4kh916$1pa@cynic.portal.ca> <4kl863$rno@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <1996Apr12.210743.28292@wavehh.hanse.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17356 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3011 Martin Cracauer wrote: ] Some of NetBSD's developers want a bounce-buffer solution that is not ] specific to one spefic kind of device or one kind of machine. For ] example, the DEC Alpha machines have ISA bus, but to use ISA cards ] with DMA you *always* have to use bounce buffers, even with 16 MB of ] RAM. I am more than passingly familiar with the 21066 Alpha boxes. Why do you think DMA transfers *always* require bounce buffers? How could you allocate such buffers from main memory, if no area of main memory could be safely targeted in a DMA transfer? Alpha needs bounce buffers for > 16M of memory -- but only in that case. Like Amiga needs bounce buffers for "device accessable" vs. "device inaccessable" ("fast") RAM. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.