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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!solace!nntp.uio.no!news.cais.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Why to not buy Matrox Millennium Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:42:32 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 87 Message-ID: <31733348.7CA5B09C@lambert.org> References: <4joi3n$bvb@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> <stephenkDp7nHo.369@netcom.com> <4jv7c9$m5t@park.uvsc.edu> <stephenkDpCsvp.LBu@netcom.com> <4kfkb2$dgs@coyote.Artisoft.COM> <Dpns87.4A0@ccc.amdahl.com> <31702DB7.72CFF4F4@lambert.org> <4ksmva$ad5@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.x:29384 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:599 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3209 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3019 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17368 Warwick Allison wrote: ] ] Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> writes: ] ] >It also seems logical that commercial users (ie: people who spend ] >money) making complaints to their vendors and to Matrox ... ] >would have ... more effect than angry threads by Linux and BSD ] >proponents. ] ] Rubbish. Matrox produce hardware. Free Unix users *LOVE* ] hardware, and some spend more than the average user. They also ] have the ear of many many many other users. ] ] Matrox will lose N sales due to this thread, no amount of pandering ] to Xinside's little monopoly is going to change that. The Matrox ] Millennium will in time be superceded by a competitors product, ] and life will go on. I claim "N" is relatively small, such that N * percentage margin per card is still smaller than the amount of money Matrox believes it is worth to protect their intellectual property in the first place. This is why I said that the "problem" must be approached by first proving to Matrox that they aren't gaining IP protection from their policy. Then you have to subtract the people who are irrevocably now "anti-Matrox" from this thread from the possible win-back, and multiply the remainder by the percentage margin. If this number is larger than what it costs Matrox to change internal policy, then the policy will be changed. Otherwise, the policy will stay. At best, you are increasing "N" by some relatively tiny amount multiplied by the margin accelartor for the XFree86 market and the people who take their advice, increasing the value relative the the value they place on their IP (you will probably never exceed that value, however, since it is inclusive of their whole market). At worst, you are increasing the number of irrevocably "anti-Matrox" people, reducing the buyback value for a policy change. The cost to you of educating Matrox about the effects of interface disclosure (which can be legally disassembled by Joerg or one of the other EU video card programmers reading this list anyway) vis-a-vis their IP rights remains constant. The cost of the policy buyoff via win-back of the market you purport to represent, on the other hand, is steadily increasing, the longer you put forth reasonable-*seeming* arguments. In other words, you are fighting the battle the wrong way. This is probably the last time I'll be willing to explain this. ] Me: I'd heard of the MM wizbang WRAM blah-blah graphics card, ] but now I know not to touch them. For what it is worth, I will not buy any hardware for which I can not obtain technical documentation. This is not a universal boycott: I am still in the group who would buy their hardware if their policy were to change (the loyalty buy-back group). I didn't need your harranguing, or for that matter, such a long post by David (though his served to educate people about how they might wish to group themselves, if they hadn't considered it before), to put me in this group. It's people like me who will pay for the policy change. People like you should stick to educating Matrox on the interaction of interface disclosure and trade secret information instead of complaining loudly about the status quo without putting forth any (productive) effort to change things. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.