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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!aplcenmp!netnews.jhuapl.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!news-server.ncren.net!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!crazytrain.eos.ncsu.edu!not-for-mail From: kpneal@eos.ncsu.edu (Kevin P. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Followup-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Date: 17 Apr 1996 13:28:23 GMT Organization: The House of RetroComputing Lines: 39 Message-ID: <4l2rln$v5n@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <317339E6.581CCB0B@lambert.org> <4l0gi7$kv7@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <3173FF99.46221A66@lambert.org> <4l2ofe$jjo@kruuna.helsinki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: crazytrain.eos.ncsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21711 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:672 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3303 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3136 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17619 comp.os.linux.advocacy:46160 Linus Torvalds (torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi) wrote: : In article <3173FF99.46221A66@lambert.org>, : Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> wrote: : >Kevin P. Neal wrote: : >] Funny, last time I went to www.microsoft.com, it was slow as a dog. : >] : >] I was amused. : > : >Do not intentionally confuse bad implementation with bad design, : >or bad design with bad ideas. : > : >If you do this, you will commit a disservice to yourself. A good : >idea or design is good, regardless of whether or not you like the : >politics of its origin. : : Do not intentionally confuse politics or origin with a bad : implementation. : : A good idea or design is _not_ good, unless there is a good : implementation of it. It is *never* a excuse to say that the "basic : design" is good, if the product is bad. A bad product is a bad product, : regardless of politics, origin _or_ design. : : If the basic design is good, then the product may be more easily : improved in the future, but before those improvements are done you're : just handwaving. : : Fight vapourware! : : Linus Geeze, I was just ragging on MicroSloth for having a slow server, and implying that perhaps they run it with their own OS. -- XCOMM Kevin P. Neal, Sophomore, Comp. Sci. \ kpneal@interpath.com XCOMM Frue, Secret Agent of Smerp (shh!) \ kpneal@eos.ncsu.edu XCOMM Visit the House of RetroComputing at / Perm. Email: XCOMM http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kpneal/www/ / kevinneal@bix.com