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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!aplcenmp!night.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!mail2news.alias.net!myriad!mylinuxbox!suck!netcom.com!stephenk From: stephenk@netcom.com (Stephen Knilans) Subject: Re: Why to not buy Matrox Millennium Message-ID: <stephenkDq791n.KuA@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <31785BB6.99F81FD@lambert.org> <stephenkDq62u3.7En@netcom.com> <31796B47.5E7DCA65@lambert.org> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 06:36:58 GMT Lines: 126 Sender: stephenk@netcom12.netcom.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:14596 comp.os.linux.development.system:21716 comp.os.linux.x:29676 comp.os.linux.hardware:36691 comp.os.linux.setup:51099 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:675 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3306 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3140 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17624 In article <31796B47.5E7DCA65@lambert.org> Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> writes: >Stephen Knilans wrote: >] Actually, FASTER DOES imply that it WORKS! If it is the >] fastest card on the planet, yet can't run your application, >] it isn't very fast afterall, now is it? > >"The Concorde isn't the fastest commercial passenger aircraft > on the planet because I can't buy replacement parts at Checker > Auto Parts and it won't run on unleaded gasoline from a Circle > K gas pump". > The concorde isn't sold as being compatible with anything! Actually, it is VERY obvious that it is VERY unique! > >] What an odd way of stating things. Yeah, and people actually >] bought YUGOS! SO? Gee, I wish every company that was bad went >] bankrupt! THEN, we wouldn't have such problems. > >Clearly, your idea of "bad" and that of the free market at >larger differ greatly. You lose; there are more of them than >there are of you... you have been outvoted. > NO, some of them are just uninformed! I bought a diamond card, which I would NOT have, had I known how they treated their customers. I ALMOST bought a matrox(I currently have a LAN with three computers, and one other viable system. Only one has an SVGA card, and one has a VGA card. > >] BTW it does NOT come with drivers for BSD, LINUX, windows 97, >] dos 8, and perhaps not even for SCO! > > >It doesn't come with a 6 inch man in the box to connect up >your 15 pin VGA connector for you, either. What *is* your >point? > If you NEED drivers, and can't get them, it is WORTHLESS! > >] >If you assume something, and then spend money on the basis >] >of your assumption, and your assumption was wrong in the >] >first place ("VGA means a generic driver will make the card >] >run", etc.), then you will suffer. >] > >] >Eventually you will learn not to make stupid assumptions. >] >] COME ON! YOU make assumptions! Do you know how I know? If >] you DIDN'T, you wouldn't even have a computer to use! Do you >] assume that a PC compatible computer runs PC software? Do >] you assume a pentium 100 is compatible with a pentium 90? > >I don't make *stupid* assumptions, because I understand the >concept of a feedback loop and have the ability to generalize >based on past experience. > I make generalizations based on past experience ALSO. Heck, we aren't talking about a mistake I made, but my dislike that a trap was set that others might fall into. *I* have been spared that disgrace for now. >Please make a note of the distinction between "assumptions" >and "*stupid* assumptions". Consider your Matrox exprience >as the universe putting evoloutionary pressure on you to >evolve the capability to not make unfounded ("stupid") >assumptions. If you fail, the universe is then free to >squash you like a grape at its convenience. > Spoken like a true jerk! May you consider such a statement the next time YOU find yourself in a bad run of luck! > >] Should I REALL have to ask the salesperson "Is this register >] compatible with VGA?", or similar questions? > >If you are buying the thing to poke at registers you need >to exist in the first place, >*YES*<. I won't implictly >agree that the registers you want to poke are VGA registers, >unless you can quote line items on the VGA standard requiring >them for all implementations claiming conformance. As I said, you CAN'T ask such a question, as over 80% will lie, and most of the rest will state they don't know, or confuse the issue. >] I'll tell you, MOST salespeople don't even understand the >] questions, and MANY lie! > >Unfounded assumption #2:Salespersons understand what they sell >Unfounded assumption #3:Salespersona will tell the truth, even > though it might cost them a sale, because > they are there to server the public, not > to make as much commision as they possibly > can. > I never made any such assumptions, especially since the facts are to the contrary. >Stupid corrolary #1: A salesperson won't pretend to understand > a question and tell you what you want to > hear. >Stupid corrolary #2: It is safe to make purchase decisions > solely on the *assurances* of the person > selling what you are purchasing. > > > >I could explain advertising lead time, and ad preparation lead >time, and production of camera-ready PMT's, and then explain >software schedule slippage and Common Time Estimate Mistakes >Software Engineers Make... > NO, this does NOT explain ANYTHING! In FACT, it gives me MORE reason to expect the tech-support guys to KNOW about the product! >But I have a feeling it would be lost on you, since you want >to impose moral restrictions on the way in which the universe >is allowed to operate. > So you WANT things to be immoral! That explains a LOT.