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#! rnews 2910 bsd Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!zetnet.co.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!kythera.demon.co.uk From: Ray Auchterlounie <rda@kythera.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:55:05 +0100 Lines: 37 Message-ID: <199604182055.VAA06262@kythera.demon.co.uk> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <jdd.829261293@cdf.toronto.edu> <yfglok14n5r.fsf@time.cdrom.com> <316ECE94.61162F47@dark.mountain.stronghold> <4kntvi$hmm@agate.berkeley.edu> <199604161742.SAA02177@kythera.demon.co.uk> <4l3sm7$17bi@news.missouri.edu> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kythera.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Brian's News Reader V0.9 [Linux] X-Mail2News-Path: disperse.demon.co.uk!post.demon.co.uk!kythera.demon.co.uk Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21873 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:725 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3364 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3206 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17779 comp.os.linux.advocacy:46449 Justin "Rhys Thuryn" McNutt <rhys@vortex.cc.missouri.edu> wrote: >Ray Auchterlounie (rda@kythera.demon.co.uk) wrote: [...] >: If this happens we've gone full circle back to a maze of different >: unixes all based on Linux but all subtly different/incompatible and >: all claiming to be the "standard". >: The opportunity will then be well and truly missed. :( >This isn't quite valid. While I see your point, and agree that it would be >very well to avoid such a situation, in your example above, Solaris and AIX are >two completely different Unices, while Caldera's Linux and FT-POSIX are still >pretty much the same Linux underneath. Same kernel maybe, but it sounded from the announcement that FT-Posix has different libc and compiler (possibly modified, possibly completely different). Different packaging/install systems on different releases could easily make a mess too. Yes you can work round this, but at the cost of losing the ease of installation and management... And then, even if applications _run_, are they supported ? In some environments a high premium is placed on this. "This Linux thing, will it run X and Y ?" "Well, yes but they're only supported under different versions." "Are they both supported on Windows95 ?" "Ermm, yes..." ray -- Ray Auchterlounie Research Student (still) at: <rda@kythera.demon.co.uk> Signal Processing Group <rda@eng.cam.ac.uk> Cambridge University Engineering Dept. "Don't ask me about my thesis (TM)"