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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!neon.ingenia.com!shaver From: shaver@neon.ingenia.com (Mike Shaver) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Followup-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Date: 18 Apr 1996 20:23:06 GMT Organization: Slacker Software Services Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4l68ba$am2@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <317339E6.581CCB0B@lambert.org> <4l0gi7$kv7@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <3173FF99.46221A66@lambert.org> <4l2ofe$jjo@kruuna.helsinki.fi> <31759E80.3B91F731@lambert.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: newneon.ingenia.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21886 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:731 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3372 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3213 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17785 comp.os.linux.advocacy:46474 Terry Lambert (terry@lambert.org) wrote: : Linus Torvalds wrote: : ] : ] A good idea or design is _not_ good, unless there is a good : ] implementation of it. It is *never* a excuse to say that the "basic : ] design" is good, if the product is bad. A bad product is a bad : ] product, regardless of politics, origin _or_ design. : ] : ] If the basic design is good, then the product may be more easily : ] improved in the future, but before those improvements are done : ] you're just handwaving. : So you're saying that a slow www.microsoft.com doesn't : necessarily mean that theye are using a bad implementation, : it could mean that WWW is a bad idea? Could mean that it's a bad design. =) (TCP connection per item, no connection caching (until very recently), no real state mechanism, tons of MIME headers per transaction...) Mike -- #> Mike Shaver (shaver@ingenia.com) Information Warfare Division <# #> Chief Tactical and Strategic Officer "Saepe fidelis" <# #> <# #> "I like your game, but we have to change the rules." -- Anon <# #> <#