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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.walltech.com!news.his.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ios.com!usenet From: Bryan Seigneur <freds@gramercy.ios.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 03:41:52 -0400 Organization: SONETECH, Inc. Lines: 89 Message-ID: <317C89C0.28EB1E08@gramercy.ios.com> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <4l5k51$3fg@dyson.iquest.net> <4l663t$1ajq@news.missouri.edu> <tporczykDq3C55.4zE@netcom.com> <4l96pm$mrt@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4lecrd$155@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-26.ts-4.dc.idt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.3.20 i486) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21928 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:742 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3384 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3225 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17817 comp.os.linux.advocacy:46552 Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > Josh Stern (jstern@primenet.com) wrote: > : > : Anecdote: There is a free online news service, NandoNet > : (http://www.nando.net) that has a section called > : InfoTech which publishes daily 'news' regarding > : doings in the information technology sectors, including > : computers, telecom, electronics, etc. So far as > : I know, this service has no direct connection to > : MS, though naturally, Microsoft is frequently a topic. > > NandoNet was started by the local newspaper here in Raleigh, NC. > The paper is the "News and Observer" (also known as the > "Nuisance and Disturber" because it's run by a bunch of > liberals (IMHO) and also has this nasty habit of making articles > that are very very one sided). Great, if their libs in that they hate megacorps, than we could have the whole operation running on free unix in a month, if we come at them from the right angle! ;) Have you seen LaParanoia? They're running Linux and Apache; as the homepage says, 'Yeah, we've got it bad.' > They divorced themselves from the paper, thankfully, and are > standalone. > > If NandoNet has a MS connection, they are being terribly quiet about > it. Meaning, I doubt there is one. > > : Anyway, one day I counted that out of 34 stories > : in this section, 12 (i.e. over 1/3) were specifically > : about Microsoft activities. Most of these stories > : were not anything that could be right categorized > : as news - they were things like MS plans such > : and such multi-media initiative for somewhere > : down the road, MS hopes to turn out some great > : internet products doing something or other, > : etc. In short, they were mainly just marketing propaganda > : that MS had sent to the authors of these collumns. > > You also have to deal with people like my parents, who believe > that if it appears in the paper, it MUST be true. > > : btw - I am not an MS-basher; I am simply appalled > : by the putrid state and direction of 'journalism' > : in the U.S. (and probably elsewhere). I don't > : find that there is anything particularly unusual > : about the NandoNet in this context. PC Magazine > : and the like are much worse, but in their case, > : it's not even clear that they pretend to print > : news. > > Hear Hear! Glad somebody else noticed this. > > : and even backdated technologies. If the > : business consumer cannot turn to PC Magazine, > : Byte, or even the Wall Street Journal or > : the New York Times for unbiased coverage > : of technology directions, it's likely > : that their perception of the extant realities > : will be quite biased as well. Bill Gates > : is a shrewd man - he understands these things > > Unbiased journalism is a crock. It does not exist (as far as I can > tell). > > The most unbiased source of info that I have found is usenet, because > you get everybody's bias (which is more honest than "Really, we're > not biased! Trust us and buy our paper!"). Yes! As long as everyone is able to exchange all the information they want to, and no one has anything close to a monopoly on any type of information, that's a good thing. Decentralization can be a very good thing. > -- > XCOMM Kevin P. Neal, Sophomore, Comp. Sci. \ kpneal@interpath.com > XCOMM Frue, Secret Agent of Smerp (shh!) \ kpneal@eos.ncsu.edu > XCOMM Visit the House of RetroComputing at / Perm. Email: > XCOMM http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kpneal/www/ / kevinneal@bix.com Bryan -- __ _ / / (_)__ __ __ _ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /| |/ / /____/_/_//_/\___//_/|_|...priceless.