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From: jsloan@LiveNet.Net (Jim Sloan)
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Subject: Re: FIVE GOOD REASONS WHY IBM'S ARE BETTER THAN MACS (only five?)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 96 13:27:37 GMT
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In article <s341797-2104962241460001@stjohn19.stjohn.uq.edu.au>, s341797@student.uq.edu.au (Andrew Wright) wrote:
>In article <4lccdm$8pf@janis.virago.org.au>,
>r.polanskis@nepean.uws.edu.au,grove@zeta.org.au wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I don't normally participate in advocacy wars, but:
>
>funny, nor do I, but i just _couldn't_ let this one go!
>well, there's a first time for everythingŠ
>
Neither do I, but I want to make some SERIOUS correction about the number of 
MAC's used as web servers.  This is taken from the Netcraft survey.
>Oh please. Mission Critical apps are what the Mac thrives on. Why do
>something like 25% of Web servers run on Mac? Simplicity, Security, Ease
>of Use, and Stability (not to mention blazing Speed)
>
Apache (2939K)                            43855      29.18
NCSA (2661K)                              39314      26.16
CERN (851K)                               12514       8.33
Netscape-Commerce (821K)                  12239       8.14
Netscape-Communications (700K)            10492       6.98
WebSite (447K)                            6673        4.44
WebSTAR (247K)                            3632        2.42
BESTWWWD (231K)                           3480        2.32
Microsoft-Internet-Informatio... (158K)   2381        1.58
Purveyor (132K)                           1974        1.31
HTTPS                                     1080        0.72
PSIWeb                                    975         0.65
MacHTTP                                   808         0.54
VApache                                   803         0.53
Apache-SSL-US                             767         0.51
Spinner                                   701         0.47
NaviServer                                667         0.44
Netscape-FastTrack                        656         0.44
OSU                                       593         0.39
GoSite-SSL                                552         0.37
Commerce-Builder                          499         0.33
Netsite-Communications                    490         0.33
WN                                        379         0.25
Netsite-Commerce                          299         0.20
WinHttpd                                  295         0.20
Apache-SSL                                261         0.17
Alibaba                                   207         0.14
GN                                        179         0.12
Apache-Neoscript                          178         0.12
GoServe                                   170         0.11
WebQuest                                  144         0.10
Open-Market-Secure-WebServer              127         0.08
plexus                                    125         0.08
NFIC                                      113         0.08
Worldgroup                                113         0.08
Open-Market-WebServer                     112         0.07
Branch_Internet_Image                     104         0.07
IBM                                       103         0.07
Spry-Web-Server-NT                        100         0.07
INOS_NT                                   100         0.07
SAIC-HTTP                                 94          0.06
Process                                   89          0.06
Apache-IO                                 84          0.06
Internet-Office-Web-Server                83          0.06
NetPresenz                                69          0.05
ZBServer                                  62          0.04
Communications-Builder                    52          0.03
ICO-SERVER-1                              51          0.03
SuperSite                                 47          0.03
WebSitePro                                45          0.03
Zeus                                      45          0.03
WebServer                                 41          0.03
HomeDoor                                  40          0.03
HTTP-Srv-Beta2                            38          0.03
phttpd                                    37          0.02
Moonsite-WEB-Server                       37          0.02
MIND                                      36          0.02
Novell                                    34          0.02
OS2HTTPD                                  33          0.02
HTTPD                                     29          0.02
PowerWeb                                  29          0.02
Spry-SafetyWEB-Server-NT                  27          0.02
Mini-Proxy                                26          0.02
Matzen                                    26          0.02
BRAD                                      26          0.02
HTrelocator                               25          0.02
Fnord                                     23          0.02
Web                                       22          0.01
TRINET                                    22          0.01
Hyper-G                                   21          0.01
CyberDesic-Redirector                     20          0.01
W4-Server                                 18          0.01
WebSTAR-PS                                17          0.01
httpd4Mac                                 16          0.01
Referrer                                  15          0.01
Open                                      15          0.01
WebServer400                              14          0.01
aws                                       14          0.01
SPRY-SafetyWEB-Server                     13          0.01
Delta's                                   12          0.01
FTPd                                      12          0.01
GLACI                                     12          0.01
Kolumbus                                  12          0.01
Spinnaker                                 12          0.01
InterServer_Publisher                     11          0.01
HTTP                                      11          0.01
Oracle_Web_listener                       11          0.01
American                                  11          0.01
DNX                                       10          0.01
Webshare                                  10          0.01
BorderWare                                10          0.01
Philips-CIS                               10          0.01
COSMOS-Web-Server                         10          0.01
Oracle                                    10          0.01
Quarterdeck                               10          0.01
FolkWeb                                   9           0.01
web500gw                                  9           0.01
DOG                                       9           0.01
NetPublisher                              8           0.01
Spyglass_Server                           8           0.01
CMSHTTPD                                  8           0.01
MUSIC                                     7           0.00
WebNotes                                  7           0.00
ECN                                       7           0.00
thttpd                                    7           0.00
Private                                   7           0.00
WebStar                                   7           0.00
CL-HTTP                                   6           0.00
WindsorWeb                                6           0.00
EINet                                     6           0.00
Netscape                                  6           0.00
SP-HTTPD                                  6           0.00
DynaWeb                                   6           0.00
Jeeves                                    6           0.00
TeleFinder                                6           0.00
Cheetah_Web_Server                        6           0.00
Open-Market-Secure-WebServer(Global)      6           0.00
NCSA-CRC+                                 6           0.00
www.folz.de                               5           0.00
MHttpd                                    5           0.00
EIT                                       5           0.00
LANWeb.I                                  5           0.00
dsihttp                                   5           0.00
ResNova_NovaServer_Mac                    4           0.00
TECWEB                                    4           0.00
Guess                                     4           0.00
Trumpet                                   4           0.00
aserve                                    4           0.00
Netscape-Enterprise                       4           0.00
FrontPage-PWS32                           3           0.00
Mhttpd                                    3           0.00
KaleidoServer                             3           0.00
deceit                                    3           0.00
jrg                                       3           0.00
JSB                                       3           0.00
NEXUS                                     3           0.00
NEIC                                      3           0.00
Juno                                      3           0.00
HPCSWebBox1.0                             3           0.00
Netsite                                   3           0.00
Perplex                                   3           0.00
Cineca-IanusWWWServer                     3           0.00
IBM-ICS                                   3           0.00
UNITE                                     3           0.00
3PWWW                                     3           0.00
BITU                                      3           0.00
LANL                                      2           0.00
GlobeCom                                  2           0.00
EDS_HTTPD                                 2           0.00
NOV                                       2           0.00
fhttpd                                    2           0.00
MultiNet_Spyglass_Server                  2           0.00
Sp                                        2           0.00
Ferretd                                   2           0.00
WW                                        2           0.00
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xs-httpd                                  2           0.00
W3D                                       2           0.00
AV                                        2           0.00
AMOS-HTTPD                                2           0.00
TEDserver                                 2           0.00
Catalog                                   2           0.00
CMU                                       2           0.00
WonLoo_LANWeb.I_for_NetWare               2           0.00
sjr117                                    2           0.00
STRACTion                                 2           0.00
Indigo                                    2           0.00
WebBase                                   2           0.00
WinHttpD                                  2           0.00
mimer                                     2           0.00
http-server                               2           0.00
HORKED                                    2           0.00
SySNET                                    2           0.00
CyberWeb                                  2           0.00
Novell-HTTP-Server                        2           0.00
Guppy                                     2           0.00
KOS-Canlink-Proxy                         2           0.00
GoHyd2-dgg                                2           0.00
AesirWeb                                  2           0.00
OneServer                                 2           0.00
Yanni                                     2           0.00
%R                                        2           0.00
bozohttpd                                 2           0.00
INTERBOX                                  2           0.00
[HHTTPD                                   2           0.00
DeltaNet                                  2           0.00
Plan9                                     2           0.00
NDC                                       2           0.00
InterWare                                 1           0.00
tclProxy                                  1           0.00
ICO-SERVER-14                             1           0.00
American-Internet-SiteBuilder             1           0.00
OmniHTTPd                                 1           0.00
NYSED-A-Series                            1           0.00
Esker                                     1           0.00
NASE                                      1           0.00
DMKHTD                                    1           0.00
httpserver                                1           0.00
LANwise                                   1           0.00
RushHour                                  1           0.00
NASTA                                     1           0.00
W3SQL(c)                                  1           0.00
grinder                                   1           0.00
OCLC                                      1           0.00
TCAT                                      1           0.00
FUGUE                                     1           0.00
Frontier                                  1           0.00
DeleGate                                  1           0.00
webSite                                   1           0.00
PowerSite_Server                          1           0.00
ICO                                       1           0.00
Web4Ham                                   1           0.00
VerisoftWebLookup                         1           0.00
Conduit                                   1           0.00
Cyber                                     1           0.00
Elvira                                    1           0.00
HypertextMOO                              1           0.00
Webstar                                   1           0.00
yawwws                                    1           0.00
SPRY-Safety-WEB                           1           0.00
TJHSST                                    1           0.00
NCSa                                      1           0.00
Webster                                   1           0.00
SYSTEX                                    1           0.00
TIGRESS                                   1           0.00
AliProxy                                  1           0.00
apinet.fr                                 1           0.00
WWWMopsi                                  1           0.00
ElectricMail-Apache                       1           0.00
SSI                                       1           0.00
SpiderWEB                                 1           0.00
Dirk-o-matic                              1           0.00
Yikes!                                    1           0.00
YAWN                                      1           0.00
DugsSuperServer                           1           0.00
aranea                                    1           0.00
One                                       1           0.00
NetCentric-NodeServer                     1           0.00
Bogo-HTTPD                                1           0.00
ExpressO                                  1           0.00
DansSimpleHTTPD                           1           0.00
WinHtt                                    1           0.00
NetXpress                                 1           0.00
Internet-Office-Secure-Web-Server         1           0.00
Redirector,                               1           0.00
CCR                                       1           0.00
WebGod                                    1           0.00
Plus                                      1           0.00
Netscape-Administrator                    1           0.00
MS                                        1           0.00
Amdahl                                    1           0.00
httpdummy                                 1           0.00
DTSC                                      1           0.00
Attachmate                                1           0.00
JHCore                                    1           0.00
tclhttpd                                  1           0.00
CLICK                                     1           0.00
COOKi                                     1           0.00
Northrop-Grumman                          1           0.00
PortfolioServer                           1           0.00
Hong                                      1           0.00
IBMExperimental                           1           0.00
Micropublisher                            1           0.00
LYB-HTTPD-EP                              1           0.00
TheA                                      1           0.00
WOO                                       1           0.00
WEBWARE-LITE                              1           0.00
that's                                    1           0.00
CYGNUS                                    1           0.00
Pythia                                    1           0.00
Destiny                                   1           0.00
Panther                                   1           0.00
SimpleHTTP                                1           0.00
Raptor                                    1           0.00
SAGE                                      1           0.00
ZCMRedirector                             1           0.00
BayMOO                                    1           0.00

Now considering the top 5 server software doesn't run on a Mac, and they make 
up some 80% of the servers, how can the Mac have 25% share of the servers?  
Hell, the top 3 make up ~60% and they are UNIX servers.  Let's get real 
everyone.  Neither Windoze or Mac's have what it takes in real world 
applications.  The best CAD software isn't on Intel or Motorola CPU's, it's on 
RISC CPU's, the best networking is on unix systems.  Both the Mac and PC have 
SERIOUS limitations in I/O that even a lowly Sparc2 outperforms.  Both Mac's 
and PC's have their place on the desktop, and Mac's gave us decent desktop 
publishing long before it was available on PCs.  Apple finally realized that 
to stay alive, they had to give up using proprietary technology, and they are 
still losing money, something like $1.4 mil in last 2 quarters.  Personally, I 
don't care for EITHER architecture, nor do I like either OS (but then 
again, I haven't met an OS I did like) and this arguement does NOT belong in 
comp.unix.bsd.misc, because neither Mac or Windoze is unix.


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