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From: jparnas@cybercom.net (Jacob Parnas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc
Subject: config help/prices/please email
Date: 28 Apr 1996 10:56:43 GMT
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Communications, Inc.
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Lots of stuff from: http://www.tdl.com/~netex/price
Other stuff from 1-800 MICRO-ASSIST
Also stuff from AxisMicro in Medford Mass
$ 450 ASUS Single Processor ASUS P/I P6RP4 from
$ 1,205 Single 200 MHz Pentium Pro Processor (256 K L2 cache)
$ 2,276 128 MB (4 x 32 MB memory) (from Axis ($569/each)
$ 283 case, cooling/fan/power supply, long cables for Screen (for
silence in my room (6-10 feet).
$ 80 Diamond med tower case, 250 W UL, Dual Fan, rail mount
$100 Best Keyboard (with control key above shift if possible and
natural and hand rest and click. Also 3 button Logitech
Mouse Man II Ergonomic 3 button mouse $ 20 PC Power
and Cooling Pentium Pro fan $ 50 50 pin to BNC connect from
Matrox (4MG) with real time video option
to Sony 5 BNC input 19" screen (in 1280x1024 mode)
(really an IBM 6091 19 display. $ 30 Keyboard, Mouse,
CDROM mount externally (1x, 8x) 5 1/4" HH $ 33 floppy. (3
1/2 "), top quality.
2-4P (PCI:screen,scs1,scsi2?,expansion) / 3-5I(ISA:ethernet,ISDN,
multi SER/PAR) / SCSI: 4 Gig new now, another 8-9 GIG
new later?, 1-2xelite?, extra disk way later, 2xCD's,
1xTanberg, 1 Exabyte, 2 extra?) = 1-11
P$ 450 Screen Card (Matrox Millenium MGA-MIL-4N) PCI slot
(720000xstones using Xinside on Pentium P-90 at 24 bit
truecolor) with 4 MB WRAM)
$ 250 Matrox Screen Card mpeg 1024x768 30fps for Matrox Millenium?
or what else
what does it do?
P$ 231 really good SCSI card (40 MByte/sec double-wide, double-speed)
P? Adaptek 4940-UW.
$ 900 disk (4.3 GB SCSI III disk, 512 Kbyte cache, 8.5 ms seeek time)
$ 170 Bert Shure, ISN = $170 8x CDRom
I$ cheapest 10 Mbit/sec ethernet card which works with BSDI
I$ 100 sound card + hook up to stereo (16 bit to preamp only and to mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
$6,315
UPgrade to dual processor/8 72 pin 60 ns pin slots (Supermicro/MicroAssist)
$ 1,150
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$ 7,755 Cost of hardware for me (Don't need screen or tape drive)
Software:
$1,050 BSDI SOFTWARE with source as educational institution.
Find out proof needed, full time, etc, how long? (with student
proof -- like transcript or ID or registration, with full source
code)
$ 100 Xinside
$ 100 Windows-95
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$ 1,250 total
Shipping
In 3 months
$ BSDI support/updates (unlimited phone)
$ 100 Xinside support+updates
unknowns:
$ UPS (triplite has software that works with BSDI (SHUTS IT DOWN,
when batteries get low)
$ postscript HP color printer (8 1/2" x 11", min 16-24bits, min
300x300 resolution
$ color, flatbed scanner 8 1/2 x 11"
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Sun System (available stuff over NFS, at least during transition):
Sun Sparcstation II (64 memory will have to be sent back since 100 ns).
* US Robotics V.34+/V.everything Courier modem hooked up at 115,200 baud
* High Speed dual RS/232 and printer card.
* 19 " color screen with 5 BNC connectors.
** External Exabyte 8500 (5 GB) (8mm) (will use my network backup
program to start
** two 207 MB 3 1/2 inch disks (internal in Sun)
** quad SCSI 5 1/4" rack mount (not rack mounted) inch box with:
** -- two 1.6 MB full height disks
** -- 1 tanberg QIC 1/4 inch SCSI
** -- 1 CDrom at original CDrom speed (1x)
(Sun SCSI out cable (mini) goes into large input cable of SCSI QUAD BOX
which ends and termininates the SCSI bus with a cable from the large
OUTPUT cable/connector of the QUAD BOX to the large INPUT cable to the
INPUT Box
-- I'll probably move the SCSI quad box and contents all at once)
** 2 RS/232 A/B boxes and 1 Parallel Printer A/B box.
** 35 Microphone
* IBM 4019 Postscript laser Printer
* reuse on new system immediately -- but I can connect up.
** reuse on new system eventually (during/after recompilation of
environment, etc)
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-- Is the 512 Kbyte cache P6200 out yet. If so, what's the lowest price
anyone saw?
-- What is the cheapest good single and dual processor for the Pentium Pro
people have seen and from where?
-- What's the lowest memory price people have seen (72 pin, 60 ns), 32 or 64
MB?
-- how much more should dual processor motherboards cost than uniprocessor?
Yes, I know now BSDI doesn't support dual processors.
-- What are the lowest prices people have seen on each item?
-- Some I don't know well (eg scanners). Which should I get? At what cost.
What's it like?
-- Any lower prices out there anyone suggests?
-- Which Ultra Wide/Fast SCSI ~4.3 GB 7200 RPM disk do people sugggest and
at what cost.
-- SCSI controller -- Which SCSI III controller is better:
958 or some Adaptec? (2940UW))? What's the lowest cost seen?
-- Anything to help V.34@115,200 baud or ISDN@512,000 (may be internal
on bus)?
-- What's the cheapest BSDI compatible ethernet card?
-- I'm wondering if that's the best box configuration. I'd like two half
height 5 1/4 for the two CD drives, a 3 1/2 " floppy drive (in the box/but
so one can put a CD or floppy into the drive), and at least 2 and possibly
4 internal 3 1/2" disks. What's the LED used for? how is is hooked up?
Which box do people suggest and at what cost?
-- If I wanted the 2 CD drives and/or floppy external, how much would that
cost (away from the box?
-- Which 3.5 inch disk drive (SCSI-III, ~4.3 GB, 7200 rpm, <= 8.5 ms
seek time) cost around 900, I guess, do you suggest? What cost/where?
Please email to jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net.
Thanks,
Jacob