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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.cis.okstate.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!trib.apple.com!mencju.apple.com!user From: jm040795@fhda.edu (Raven) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.os.ms-windows.misc Subject: Partitioning Woes INFO Date: 2 May 1996 01:33:33 GMT Organization: TheSharewareCollector Lines: 91 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jm040795-0105961831030001@mencju.apple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a17-211-20-52.apple.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:101019 comp.os.linux.hardware:37700 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:8724 comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95:9178 comp.os.msdos.misc:54573 comp.os.os2.setup.storage:4829 comp.periphs.scsi:51413 comp.sys.next.misc:39463 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:897 comp.unix.solaris:67604 comp.unix.unixware.misc:12598 comp.unix.sys5.r4:10917 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:87054 Okay, when trying to install 13 OSes, I am running into some problems. Go figure? Anyways I'm trying to compile a list of problems and diagnose the problems. Maybe others may have some ideas or insight to what's happening. Problems Cause Notes Can't boot off of second unknown drive Cannot boot above 1gig OS uses or is setup UnixWare and NeXTStep to use BIOS to boot have this problem. Linux versus a linear method has this problems with LILO, but can be workaround with 'linear' option. Cannot partition drive unknown Maybe a problem with INT13 with OS fdisk utility vs linear partitioning. I experienced problems with Solaris reporting slice exceeds the end of disk when a drive is formatted by PQMagic. Linux also states that the partitions are not aligned on correct boundries. Cannot install OS into OS does not support WindowsNT, OS/2, and Linux extended logical this feature support this feature partitions Can only use/create four Inherent limitation Microsoft has a standard partitions PC clones. partitioning scheme which supports more than four partitions. Currently only DOS, Window95, WindowsNT OSes support this standard. Cannot boot NT or OS2 Some OSes/software WindowsNT and OS/2 exhibit and/or run Windows are configured to this behavioral problem software after creating boot/load from a when booting. Windows apps DOS/Win95 partitions. static particular and even some DOS apps partition. exhibit this problem. Termanologies/Technologies: o Volumes - This is where you save you data. It could be a file, drive, partition, network volume, floppy, serveral network volumes around the network merged together to appear as a drive. o Soft Partition - A file which exists within a hard partition. This file is a contains the actual data contained within the virtual partition. On Macintoshes a driver will mount this file as a partition that can be used. On PCs, it could possible load soft partition files as volumes using a driver for a propiertary format. Operating Systems have the ability to mount logical drives existing within the extended partition. This logical drives are actually files, or soft partitions, existing withing the extended partition. o Hard Partition - This is a predined area within you hard drive sectioned off for storing data. A hard partition must be mapped on even cylinder boundries. o Extended partition - This partition is only used for contianing soft partitions called logical drives. You cannot use the extended partition itself a drive, but rather smaller partitions within the extended partition. o Primary partition - This is a partition commonly used on PCs. You cannot have smaller partitions within this volume. o Geometry - This is how sectors are laid out on a hard drive. On IDE drives this is all consistant, but for SCSI drives, the geometry layout varies from SCSI card to SCSI card by different vendors. Many SCSI cards will read other vendors SCSI geometry, especially Adaptec products. This causes problems for users whom try to take devices for one computer to another with SCSI cards made by different vendors. I believe this can be allievated by smart OSes which can read multiple geometries. I could be way off here on understanding extended partitions, but from using PCs for a few years, I believe this is how they works. I do know however that you are limited to only four partitions which really sucks. If anyone has had problems partitioning and installing OSes, let me know. I thought of compiling a chart of known problems and possible workarounds. Send me any suggestions, better descriptions for novice users, or additional input or even questions/problems. - joaquin