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From: rbickers@intercenter.net (Ron Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
Subject: Re: Dispute over number of files
Date: 3 May 1996 15:06:30 GMT
Organization: The Internet Center - Raleigh, NC
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MML Staff (mml@4you.com) wrote:

: I have an account with an Internet presence provider (names
: will be kept confidential) and I was told I would get
: 75 Mbytes of disk space with my account when I signed up.  
: Recently I was not able to create any more files and doing a 
: "quota -v" revealed that they had also imposed a quota on the 
: number of files I could create.  Here is what it looked like:

: Disk quotas for user [deleted] (uid [deleted]):                                       
:     
:      Filesystem  blocks   quota   limit   grace   files   quota   limit   grace
:            /usr   35815   84480   76800            7499    8250    7500        

: I am creating a lot of HTML files which tend to be small
: (usually under 1K) and so have not used up a lot of disk
: blocks (each block is 1K).  I also try to keep the size
: of the images small so they will transfer more quickly.

First, I know you don't have to reformat the drive to take off the file
quotas and I know they aren't "linked" to the byte quotas.

There is a file limit per file system.  Each file takes an inode and
when you run out of inodes, you can't create any more files on the
system even if you have a lot more disk space available.  A 'df -i'
will show the inodes used/available.  If the file system is used only
for thousands and thousands of 1K files, you'll probably run into
an inode problem.  I've only heard of this problem with news spool
drives but I'm sure there are other situations where it's a problem.
Reformatting the file system with different parameters than the
default could allow for more inodes and should have been done if
they suspected the files would be nothing but many small ones.

Check out 'df -i' and see if the % of inodes used is grossly less
than the % of disk space used on the file system in question. If it
is, they're probably over cautious and you're better off finding
another provider that knows what they're doing.

Ron.