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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mira.net.au!inquo!vyzynz!news.dacom.co.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!news.elim.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsie.dmc.com!news.zipnet.net!usenet From: mi@aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Borland-type editor anywhere? Date: 8 May 1996 21:55:13 GMT Organization: Aldan at Newton Upper Falls Lines: 37 Message-ID: <4mr581$8u@news.zipnet.net> References: <ADlbrKriXS@qsar.chem.msu.su> Reply-To: mi@ALDAN.algebra.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip66-max2-bos.zipnet.net X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 Honorable Eugene Radchenko wrote on 07 May (in article <ADlbrKriXS@qsar.chem.msu.su>): =Well, I use vi - it is ok for fixing PATH in .profile or uncommenting =options in LINT, but for anything more demanding-.... =As to emacs and its clones - here is what I want - I think it answers to =this: =1- flexible customizable command set - preferably using Esc for exiting = rather than invoking special commands and defaulting to Borland commands =2- visible selected area (e.g. inverted) =3- ability to select area with Shift+cursor_movement_keys as well as usual = 'set mark' commands =4- column (rectangular) and linear selection types =5- clipboard where selected area can be cut/copied to and pasted from = (system-wide clipboard would be nice but editor-incarnation-wide will do) =6- insertion-replaces-selection protocol (a-la Windoze) - at least as = switchable option =7- ability to insert files and to write selection to file (and multifile = editing as well) =8- autoindenting and some other nice touches (though emacs has some of = these, I've heard) Points 1 and 6 clearly indicate, that it is _you_ who needs the features, not the work you are doing. In other words, whatever it is, that is "more demanding" it can be done with vi (in fact, when I am so unfortunate, that I have to work on Windows, I install vi on my machine...), but _you_ would prefer "a-la Windoze" interface. That's fine, but do not blame an innocent software, it is perfectly capable of all the demands... FreeBSD's nvi is particularly good, BTW. People say xemacs is good, but I can smell mice miles from it, so I do not use it... -mi -- "Windows for dummies"