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From: doctor@nl2k.edmonton.AB.ca (The Doctor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
Subject: Re: What post BSD/OS 2.1 needs
Date: 8 May 1996 08:31:14 -0600
Organization: NetLine 2000
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Message-ID: <4mqb7i$iqv@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca>
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In article <4moo7r$ckf@olympus.nwnet.net>,
Anthony D'Atri <aad@nwnet.net> wrote:
>>WU-FTd version 2.4(9)
>>Apache 1.1
>>Taylor UUCP 1.06.1
>>Current version of INN
>>Current Sendmail (8.7.5 I think) or a smail option.
>>ircd for EFNet, DalNet et al on respective ports
>
>All easily grabbed from the net and built, though the stock INN notes
>are wrong for 2.x.

Where are the errors for the above mentioned?

>
>>All patches from 2.0 and 2.1 (obvious :-))
>>Current NON-beta version of bash,ksh,tcsh and zsh.
>
>2.1 ships with tcsh 6.05, which works perfectly well, though /usr/contrib/bin
>isn't the right place for it.  It *would* be nice if BSDI would submit
>the requisite changes to the maintainer so that 6.06+ could be built from
>stock sources.  If I cared about bash I'd grab it from prep.ai.mit.edu and
>build it myself.  ksh & zsh -- who cares?

One moment, each shell has its own forthcomings and misgivings. I will
document these in an upcoming book.  To each there own.  

I played around in zsh and it needs a LOT of work and I have the
current GNU bash running here.

>
>>current Netscape (2.02 at this point) and Mosaic (2.7b4)
>
>Beta 3.0 is the current netscape.  New incremental versions come out frequently
>enough that by the time the CD ships it'd be out of date anyway -- especially
>since at least some of their binaries are time-bombed anyway.

2.02 is NOT Time-bombed and that should ship unless 3.0  RELEASE is available.

>
>>A native GUI like SunOS and HP.
>
>HUH? GUI to what?  Do you mean "window system"?  They supply an X11R6 build
>that works fine for me.  Do you want a huge, buggy, memory-intensive set of
>layered applications that break the normal resources mechanism, like VUE?

Point well taken, but BSDI show works on a VUE/Sunview option that
can be started at the command line instead of going to the GUI immediately.

BTW, rumour has it that the next release of BSD/OS will have Web sysadmin tools.

>
>I'd rather that they concentrate on the OS itself and not on bundling in
>lots of freeware that I'd want to recompile from current sources anyway.
>They're a tiny company with limited development resources.  I'd rather that
>those resources were spent fixing the glaring deficiencies in the OS
>itself -- like the lack of a good striping driver (2.2 is purported to include
>a written-from-scratch one that's better than the pitiful cd.c), support for
>wide transfers on wide SCSI controllers, support for *ANY* differential SCSI
>controllers, clean flags on filesystems, a kernel-tuning document, a merged
>heap & buffer cache, and so forth.  Sun has had all of these things for
>a while -- some of them for years.  I don't use this OS for turnkey desktops
>or dialup customers.  I use it to provide serious, intensive services.

I do quite a bit as well.

Readying a BSDI book for release ...

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