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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.uwa.edu.au!disco.iinet.net.au!news.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.nl2k.edmonton.ab.CA!news.nl2k.edmonton.ab.CA!not-for-mail From: doctor@nl2k.edmonton.AB.ca (The Doctor) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Subject: Re: What post BSD/OS 2.1 needs Date: 8 May 1996 08:31:14 -0600 Organization: NetLine 2000 Lines: 73 Message-ID: <4mqb7i$iqv@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> References: <4mng0k$cb6@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca> <4moo7r$ckf@olympus.nwnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca In article <4moo7r$ckf@olympus.nwnet.net>, Anthony D'Atri <aad@nwnet.net> wrote: >>WU-FTd version 2.4(9) >>Apache 1.1 >>Taylor UUCP 1.06.1 >>Current version of INN >>Current Sendmail (8.7.5 I think) or a smail option. >>ircd for EFNet, DalNet et al on respective ports > >All easily grabbed from the net and built, though the stock INN notes >are wrong for 2.x. Where are the errors for the above mentioned? > >>All patches from 2.0 and 2.1 (obvious :-)) >>Current NON-beta version of bash,ksh,tcsh and zsh. > >2.1 ships with tcsh 6.05, which works perfectly well, though /usr/contrib/bin >isn't the right place for it. It *would* be nice if BSDI would submit >the requisite changes to the maintainer so that 6.06+ could be built from >stock sources. If I cared about bash I'd grab it from prep.ai.mit.edu and >build it myself. ksh & zsh -- who cares? One moment, each shell has its own forthcomings and misgivings. I will document these in an upcoming book. To each there own. I played around in zsh and it needs a LOT of work and I have the current GNU bash running here. > >>current Netscape (2.02 at this point) and Mosaic (2.7b4) > >Beta 3.0 is the current netscape. New incremental versions come out frequently >enough that by the time the CD ships it'd be out of date anyway -- especially >since at least some of their binaries are time-bombed anyway. 2.02 is NOT Time-bombed and that should ship unless 3.0 RELEASE is available. > >>A native GUI like SunOS and HP. > >HUH? GUI to what? Do you mean "window system"? They supply an X11R6 build >that works fine for me. Do you want a huge, buggy, memory-intensive set of >layered applications that break the normal resources mechanism, like VUE? Point well taken, but BSDI show works on a VUE/Sunview option that can be started at the command line instead of going to the GUI immediately. BTW, rumour has it that the next release of BSD/OS will have Web sysadmin tools. > >I'd rather that they concentrate on the OS itself and not on bundling in >lots of freeware that I'd want to recompile from current sources anyway. >They're a tiny company with limited development resources. I'd rather that >those resources were spent fixing the glaring deficiencies in the OS >itself -- like the lack of a good striping driver (2.2 is purported to include >a written-from-scratch one that's better than the pitiful cd.c), support for >wide transfers on wide SCSI controllers, support for *ANY* differential SCSI >controllers, clean flags on filesystems, a kernel-tuning document, a merged >heap & buffer cache, and so forth. Sun has had all of these things for >a while -- some of them for years. I don't use this OS for turnkey desktops >or dialup customers. I use it to provide serious, intensive services. I do quite a bit as well. Readying a BSDI book for release ... -- God, Queen and Country Member - Liberal International NEVER Satan, President and Republic Board Member - Edmonton Heritage Nazarene Hating Bachelor's Living; Doctor Who returns: 13 May at BAFTA for DWAS, 14 May on Fox for NA, 27 May on BBC1 - check rec.arts.drwho for local gatherings http://doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca/~doctor British Columbia, beware of Van Der Zalm Reform and Harcourt/Clark NDP on 28 May VOTE Liberal!!