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From: juengst@saph1.physik.uni-bonn.de (Henry G. Juengst)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: How to delete files within C programs
Date: 10 May 1996 08:22:17 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Strahlen- und Kernphysik
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Sender: juengst@saph2.physik.uni-bonn.de (Henry G. Juengst)
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In article <4mtro7$mtp@web.nmti.com>, peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <4mtkh4$dhh@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>,
>Henry G. Juengst <juengst@saph1.physik.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> In article <4mtepd$gne@web.nmti.com>, peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>> >In article <4mt9lm$32f@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>,
>> >Henry G. Juengst <juengst@saph1.physik.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> >> Evidently you have no real experiences with OpenVMS.
>
>> >I do, though.
>
>> >It's a competant enough operating system, but it's not open in any
>> >meaningful way.
>
>> Please, send this unfounded assertion ("not open in any meaningful way")
>> to comp.os.vms. We can discuss it there.
>
>No.
>
>When OpenVMS came out, with its POSIX shell and libraries, we attempted to
>take advantage of this and port our vertical market application to VMS. Not
>only was this basically impossible, due to the lack of functionality in the
The list of ported software shows, that it is not impossible, may be just
for your vertical market applications.
>shell, but in addition it was impossible to write stubs to call the VMS
>runtime to make up for its shortcomings because you couldn't *do* that from
>POSIX applications! So, the Open in OpenVMS refers to a marketing strategy...
>not to any honest effort to provide a standards based environment.
POSIX does not mean open. And many people are happy that they do not
depend on POSIX.
>
>--
>Peter da Silva (NIC: PJD2) `-_-' 1601 Industrial Boulevard
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>Bailey pays for my technical expertise. My opinions probably scare them
Henry
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