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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!vic.news.telstra.net!act.news.telstra.net!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!bofh.dot!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Problems with Adaptec AIC7850 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 21:30:18 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 46 Message-ID: <319417DA.6B419E6A@lambert.org> References: <4md4pg$3gi@lynet.lynet.de> <4mgi1m$mkb@uriah.heep.sax.de> <4mkft7$me1@lynet.lynet.de> <4mobul$aut@uriah.heep.sax.de> <4ms9us$m2e@lynet.LyNet.De> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) Uwe Gruentjes wrote: ] ] In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) wrote: ] >Ah, yes, i remember that some of the newer controllers aren't ] >supported by stock 2.1R. When in doubt, it's perhaps the best to ask ] >the maintainer of the ahc driver. You should also not that he ] >back-ported his changes from -current to -stable, means that you can ] >use them even in a ``less development-like'' system. ] ] Meanwhile I managed to install 2.2-960501-SNAP without problems. In ] the process I noticed that 2.2-SNAP probes for PCI devices before it ] looks for ISA devices, while 2.1R does look for ISA devices first. ] Maybe it has something to do with this order of bus probing. More likely, the controller wasn't supported by the driver in the older release. The probe order change was because PCI devices are non-destructively probe-able, and changing the order let BSD find the non-destructively probe-able devices and map their resources out of the "possible" list for destructive ISA probes. The net effect is that ISA probes that used to be dangerous for some exiting PCI (EISA/MCA/PCMCIA/ISA PnP/etc.) devices will no longer break anything (other than other bogus ISA devices). This is part of a move to a unified, deterministic probe architecture that has been a long term project that is only now starting to bear some *significant* fruit. If anything, this has caused some problems with machines that weren't strictly conformant with the 2.x PCI spec, but liked and said they were (ie: some Compaq systems). I believe this is all fixed via bridge chipset detection (ie: we know when the Compaq PCI data is lying to us). In any case, if it's causing less problems for you, it's probably unrelated to the controller problem you were seeing. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.