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From: ccooney1@site.gmu.edu (Christopher M Cooney (CS))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX)
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Date: 12 May 1996 02:47:31 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
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Thumper! (thumper@vfr.interceptor.com) wrote:
: Tim Smith wrote:
: > 
: > Thumper! <thumper@vfr.interceptor.com> wrote:
: > >Even if you own the product, it is ILLEGAL for you to use that information to
: > >engineer your own product, whether it be compatible or not (ie, using the
: > >information to learn from is illegal as well).
: > 
: > [I'm assuming United States law in this posting]
: > 
: > In general, this is incorrect.  If you don't want someone to be able to
: > legally reverse engineer your product, you've got to get them to
: > contractually agree to not reverse engineer it.  For non-software
: > products, there is not much you can do to stop reverse engineering,
: > except get patents to cover the essentials of your product, or make
: > sure that you are careful who you sell to.  If it's going to be a mass
: > marketed product that any schmoe can go and buy at the supermarket or
: > hardware store, patents are about the only protection you can hope
: > for.

: That would sadly imply that software is unprotectable.  Commercial software, GNU, 
: GPL, etc, are meaningless, because it's therefore legal to take someone's product, 
: take it apart to see how it works, and then derive your own work partially, or even 
: entirely, from that work, and proceed to legally sell your own work.  That would 
: also apply to hardware as well; just take apart an Intel CPU, make a copy, and 
: build your own.  After all, why should patents offer protection that copyright 
: doesn't?

NO.
if you take apart the cpu and use the info to write a program,
that's legal. if you use the info to make a cpu (and copy the microcode)
that's illegal. if you copy the instruction set and roll your own
hardware, that's legal.
understand yet?
-chris