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From: "Yun-Ching (Allen) Lee" <yunching@Ami-chan.res.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD ...
Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:36:05 -0400
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Nick Kralevich wrote:
> If everything is on one partition, the recommended course of action is
> to boot up off an emergency floppy that is created during the install.

It seems like Red Hat forgot this step in the installation process.

> With FreeBSD, the recommended thing to do is to do a complete
> reinstall from scratch.  There is no feature in FreeBSD to do easy
> upgrades.

There is an "Upgrade from 2.0.5" menu choice on the 2.1.0 installation
disk.  I have not tried this option yet.  I will give it a try when
2.1.1-RELEASE or 2.2-RELEASE is available.  But will this necessary if I
decide to stay current with the STABLE source tree?

> Perhaps FreeBSD could update their distributions to RPM or the Debian
> package manager instead of their modified .tar.gz format.  It would
> make upgrading as easy for FreeBSD as it is for Linux.)

How did you conclude that FreeBSD's package format is less advanced
because it uses tar.gz format?  After all, the RPM format also needs to
compress a number of files into one (which tar.gz does fairly well)
while packing instruction files for installation/upgrade (equivalent to
+files on FreeBSD.)

> >A merit of FreeBSD's centralized development, it is far easier to
> >obtain the source to FreeBSD system files than hunting for source
> >code to programs that came pre-compiled on a system.
> 
> I'm not sure what your talking about.

My thanks to Mr. Hubbard who stepped in and answered this question for
me.  The sup and CTM mechanism saves the administrator the trouble of
downloading a huge tar.gz file just to find it's not necessary.

> Check out the Japanese HOWTO at
> http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/JE-HOWTO.html

This only works for the Slackware/SLS distributions.  For a Red Hat
user, it might mean hunting down the Slackware pkgtool program and
packages, and when he or she installs it, it may not work because of
different path configuration or versions of dynamic libraries.  I had
the latter problem happen to me when I tried to install JE packages on
my Slackware 3.0 system.  I solved the problem by finding all the JE
binaries, list the dynamic libraries each uses, and create symlinks from
older libraries to newer (installed) libraries.  What a pain.

More anecdotes from me...  I have few classmates who claims Linux is the
greatest OS ever, and the only other OS's they have ever used were
DOS/Windows/Windows 95.  And they can't even pronounce Linux correctly.
In IPA:  [la'j n{schwa}ks] instead of the correct one [lI' nuwks].

{schwa} is the upside-down 'e'.

-- 
Yun-Ching (Allen) Lee (yunching@Ami-chan.res.cmu.edu), CMU SCS
http://Ami-chan.res.cmu.edu/~yunching/home.html