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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: ghudson@glacier.mit.edu (Greg Hudson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: followup from censored port-i386@Netbsd.ORG Date: 23 Jun 1996 14:56:09 -0400 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 43 Sender: ghudson@glacier.MIT.EDU Message-ID: <x7dk9wytkmo.fsf@glacier.MIT.EDU> References: <DERAADT.96Jun23070919@zeus.theos.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: glacier.mit.edu In-reply-to: deraadt@theos.com's message of 23 Jun 1996 13:09:19 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3841 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:22077 Note: I am not a member of the NetBSD core team and I don't speak for the NetBSD project. As for the history of the split between NetBSD and OpenBSD, not everyone who's read Theo's mail archive has come to the same conclusion that he has. That aside, there are some factual matters in Theo's post which bear clarification; here they are (with a little editorial comment): > They permitted a piece of mail to go through which flamed me (and > hence the OpenBSD group) but have censored my reply. John Goerzen's message did not trigger the moderation filter, or it probably would not have been approved. Jason did not wind up approving any of the recent bounces that triggered the moderation filter. port-i386 is intended for technical discussion of the i386 port, not for political discussion. One may or may not believe that it's Jason's responsibility to let people reply to flames that make it past the moderation filter. > Why should I help a project that flames OpenBSD developers > regularily? A few days ago Herb said to one of the OpenBSD > developers: > "And to think I thought you were older than that... I guess Theo > has done us all a favor... He's collecting all the assholes in one > little pot... run along little man..." Herb Peyerl does not speak for the NetBSD project. Such messages can and do generate bad blood, but I think it's unfair to use them as evidence against the core team without at least pointing that out. > I want to point out that 3 of 4 founders of NetBSD are not on NetBSD > core anymore because of the politics. Lest anyone believe they were expelled, Adam Glass and Chris Demetriou left core of their own accord. To the best of anyone's knowledge I know about, Adam left because he lost interest, not because of politics. Chris is still the Alpha port maintainer and contributes frequently. It's also a little peculiar to refer to "the politics," because the political issues at hand were quite different between Chris's case and yours.