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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!qmw!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!zhochaka.demon.co.uk From: "David G. Bell" <dbell@zhochaka.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 08:31:07 GMT Organization: C. Bell & Sons Lines: 45 Message-ID: <836123467snz@zhochaka.demon.co.uk> References: <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> <836073421snz@dsl.co.uk> <4r4oup$o76@newsgate.duke.edu> Reply-To: dbell@zhochaka.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: zhochaka.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.30 X-Mail2News-Path: zhochaka.demon.co.uk In article <4r4oup$o76@newsgate.duke.edu> reese@chem.duke.edu "Charles Reese" writes: > Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> wrote: > >In article <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> > > kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com "Ken Bigelow" writes: > > > >> If you have a connection limited to 200 b/s, why not make the connection, > start > the download, and then go to bed? Most dialers = > (Trumpet Winsock, the user PPP > >> program in FreeBSD, etc.) can have an inactivity timeout so that the > connection > will shut down 5 minutes (or whatever) after th= > e transfer ends, so connection > >> time should not be a problem. > > > >In amongst all the grossly overlong lines above (whatever happened to the > >Usenet convention of writing no more than 72--76 characters per line?) > >it's easy to see that Ken lives in a world where the connection time is > >of limited or zero cost. Here in the UK, all telephone calls are charged > >for: even at the cheapest rate, the charge is still 1p/minute, and for > >other times of the day, and for non-local calls (many users do not have > >ISPs such as Demon, who provide local call access throughout an entire > >kingdom), the charge can be as great at 10p/min. At those rates, leaving > >a connection to plod along at 200B/s is *not* a realistic option. > > > >-- > >Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk > > I'm jumping in here in the middle so the point may have already been > disscussed but one way to handle big http binaries (which I also > dislike) is to do a shell login to your provider and use a text based > browser (I use lynx) to download the file to your shell account and then > ftp it home from there. Of course if you don't have shell access... I can't recall whether or not it has been mentioned in this thread or not, but machines with *.demon.co.uk addresses are those of Demon customers with dial-up access -- we don't have shell accounts, we're genuine Internet nodes with domain names, IP addresses, and all the privileges and responsibilities which that implies. -- David G. Bell -- Farmer, SF Fan, Filker, Furry, and Punslinger..