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From: Charles Reese <reese@chem.duke.edu>
Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages
Date: 30 Jun 1996 23:07:40 GMT
Organization: Duke University
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"Anthony R. Gold" <tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4r4oup$o76@newsgate.duke.edu>
> reese@chem.duke.edu "Charles Reese" writes:
>
>> I'm jumping in here in the middle so the point may have already been
>> disscussed but one way to handle big http binaries (which I also
>> dislike) is to do a shell login to your provider and use a text based
>> browser (I use lynx) to download the file to your shell account and then
>> ftp it home from there. Of course if you don't have shell access...
>
>But how is that any help? Can you diconnect from your shell, and
>thereby stop paying call charges, while allowing your shell
>hypertelnet to keep downloading? Or do you believe that Lynx
>achieves a faster connection to an http server than a subscriber can
>manage with netscrape or whatever? Or is the fundamental part of
>this technique to fetch the file using your employer's phone bill?
>
>Regards,
>--
> Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com
> tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk
> packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
I also connect via a dial up account, it is to Duke University but it
shouldn't make much difference who provides your ISP service. If you
have a shell account on your ISP machine (ie you can login directly or
use telnet via PPP or SLIP to get a login shell) you can start a lynx
process there and start it doing a download, then you put it into the
background (supposing that they are UNIX boxes) and logout or start
another lynx doing another download. This has a number of advantages,
first lynx (or ftp for that matter) will have a faster connection since
it is not going through a phone line (unless you have a VERY small ISP)
and secondly you can run multipule processes on the ISP box and get a lot
more done in the same time
Also I find that UNIX-UNIX ftp or http are faster then MSW(we use WFW
3.11)-UNIX and much much faster then MSW MSW even when I am using the
ethernet directly at work. I don't know why for sure but I suspect that
Windows misses a lot of packets and forces a lot of resends. The WFWs is
ok as long as your on the same physical wire but as soon as you go though
a router they really slow down.
When the file is in my directory on the machine at Duke I login to
Duke using ftp (WS_FTP is what I use) and ftp it from there. I can
download files to Duke in 3-5 mins and then home in 15-20 mins that I
spent hours trying to get directly and never did get cause it always lost
the connection. Try it, you'll like it.
Using this approach has nothing to do with phone charges as I don't
pay them (its a local call in US) and Duke doesn't pay them cause they
pay for their connection at a flat rate.
Cheers
Charlie Reese
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