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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.dacom.co.kr!arclight.uoregon.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!awfulhak.demon.co.uk!awfulhak.demon.co.uk!awfulhak.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk (Brian Somers) Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Followup-To: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: 2 Jul 1996 22:24:11 -0500 Organization: Coverform Ltd. Lines: 47 Message-ID: <4rcp4r$ca@anorak.coverform.lan> References: <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> <836073421snz@dsl.co.uk> <31D87436.7C7F@www.play-hookey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.coverform.lan X-NNTP-Posting-Host: awfulhak.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Ken Bigelow (kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com) wrote: : Also, what are the chances of establishing a flat fee for local telephone : usage? I have a sneaking hunch that that one factor is *the* primary : limitation in your system, and that you folks in the UK will be held back : until some sort of flat rate becomes possible. Ah, well, that's a long story. The UK (believe it or not) has the most technically advanced and widest telecom infrastructure in the world. Coupled with this is a government that thinks it's a good idea not to use it - almost as bad as allowing people to use it and then thinking that it can be censored. The "arguement" goes along the lines of: Government official: Oh dear chaps, our one and only telecom company makes £0.97 profit per second every second of the year. What shall we do. Other official: I know, let's tax it. Government official: But we already do. Other official: I know, let's break the monopoly. Government official: But how? Other official: We'll tell them that they can't use their infrastructure. Government official: Yes, I like that, we don't know what it is anyway. So along come the cable companies, jumping in there and laying their (relatively meesly) cableing. Government official: We've got a problem, BT are undercutting the oppo and nobody wants to move from BT. Other official: Ok, let's tell BT that they aren't allow to drop their rates - especially if they plan to make local calls free. Government official: But the cable companies offer free off-peak local cable company to cable company calls. Other official: Well, let's hope nobody notices. BT are now practically excluded from the ISP market when they have (I think) in the region of T3 width lines under the streets. Sounds like AT&T a few years ago. "You're not allowed to develop Unix - you're a telephone company"...... Rant over - the whole thing just pisses me off ! -- Brian <brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....