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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com!newshost.convex.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!dragnhll.demon.co.uk From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Date: Thu, 04 Jul 96 09:26:07 GMT Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Lines: 30 Message-ID: <836472367snz@dsl.co.uk> References: <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> <836073421snz@dsl.co.uk> <31D87436.7C7F@www.play-hookey.com> <836295557snz@dsl.co.uk> <4rcr6v$dh@anorak.coverform.lan> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dragnhll.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 X-Mail2News-Path: dragnhll.demon.co.uk In article <4rcr6v$dh@anorak.coverform.lan> brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk "Brian Somers" writes: > Brian {Hamilton Kelly} (bhk@dsl.co.uk) wrote: > : Another problem with web surfing is that Netscape took a cynical decision > : to launch parallel multiple sessions which are playing absolute havoc > : with the RTT timeout adjustment algorithms of most TCP/IP packages: it > : has been said that this is the single most contributory factor to the > : slowing down of the 'net in the past year, with fully 40% of packets > : being needlessly duplicated. > > I find that difficult to believe. What do you mean by TCP/IP packages? > Do you mean the machines on which netscape is running (such as maybe > Windows & OS/2)? If this is the case, then the OS is broken. RTTs > should be variable and should adjust according to connection throughput. It is the implementation of the adaptive algorithm in the TCP/IP kermel that is being confused by the multiple threads fired off by Netscape. Amongst other places, this is mentioned in the apologia from the Solaris TCP/IP developers who've been fixing the rather more broken problem with their kernel. Netscape actually fires off multiple requests *expecting* to discard the results from some of them: as I said, it's quite cynical. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "A language is a dialect that has an army and a navy" -- Samuel Johnson