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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com!newshost.convex.com!bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: Curious about *BSD History Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 12:58:58 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 31 Message-ID: <31DD7402.656B7335@lambert.org> References: <4k1nue$lm8@orb.direct.ca> <31D0A2C9.72741EA8@lambert.org> <4qs2ag$bg0@pier2.bayarea.net> <31D29460.41C67EA6@inuxs.att.com> <4rbql3$ges@pier2.bayarea.net> <31D9789E.41C67EA6@inuxs.att.com> <31D9AE36.3993D656@lambert.org> <SOUVA.96Jul5175429@aibn55.astro.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:22892 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3936 Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: ] > ] FreeBSD has added optional pmap entry points to support ] > ] microcoded TLB's better. ] > ] > This hurts, I think, in the non-microcoded TLB case (Alpha, PPC). ] ] PPC 603 _have_ microcoded TLBs. BeBox has 2 601 with no L2 cache and use the cache circuitry for MEI (instead of MESI) cache coherency. I don't think you can safely use the (fewer than on the 603) 601 features and maintain coherency. I could be wrong; I haven't got a BeBox yet. Nevertheless, the point is valid, even if I am wrong about all models of the PPC (my gut says I am not), in that the trade here is for increased overhead on exactly those systems which can not afford it. You want a soloution which trades overhead for hardware assistance: the bias should be toward systems without the microcoded TLB's. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.