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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!awfulhak.demon.co.uk!awfulhak.demon.co.uk!awfulhak.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk (Brian Somers) Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Followup-To: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: 5 Jul 1996 14:49:49 -0500 Organization: Coverform Ltd. Lines: 60 Message-ID: <4rjrkt$ih@anorak.coverform.lan> References: <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> <31D87436.7C7F@www.play-hookey.com> <836295557snz@dsl.co.uk> <4rcr6v$dh@anorak.coverform.lan> <4rf3e3$25i@avondale.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.coverform.lan X-NNTP-Posting-Host: awfulhak.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John F Hall (jfhall@avondale.demon.co.uk) wrote: : In article <4rcr6v$dh@anorak.coverform.lan>, : Brian Somers <brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> wrote: : >So, what you're saying is that demon - who recently were applying for : >another class B address space (about 65000 users currently?) have decided : >in their infinite wisdom to invest in a T3? Well, bully for them. Let's : >see, 45,000,000 bits / 65,000 users = 692 *bits* each. Woooooffff ! : >I'll get out there and start my 86 byte/sec download now ! Ok, maybe : >that's a bit unfair. They havn't got the capacity to have everyone : >connected at once. Let's say they allow 6000 of us in at once, what's : >that, about 937 bytes per second ? In fact, this *wonderful* T3 will : >allow a staggering 1607 28.8k users to get max throughput. I'd better : >rush home and get in there first. : What a load of twaddle! Don't you think it would be better to divide : the the number of Demon *modems*, not the number of *users* - I don't : think the users not logged in use all that much bandwidth. Hey ? I'm not talking about dividing anything. I'm saying that Demon should be multiplying what they're offering - in line with their increased income due to increased subscription. When I joined Demon, it was practical to download things directly from the States. : Secondly only a minority of users want to connect to the US - that might : be *your* preference, but others have other priorities, some read news, : some log into University accounts, some email to their branch offices, : etc. There are *other* routes out of Demon, why base all your : calculations on one and ignore the others? Oh give me a break. Haven't you heard of the web ? Does anyone know what percentage of Demon customers use the web ? Just about every interesting site is in, or points some links to the States. : Don't you think Demon have : *measured* the traffic on each route? No I don't. If they have, why is the throughput lousy ? : >We at Demon have only *one* route to the states. : That's wrong too. I mean "one route in use". If RIP starts routing stuff some other way, (say through UKNET - or is it UUNET?) and not through Demons direct connection, that'd just reinforce what I've been saying. : >It should have been a T3 by mid 1994. : And that. Well qualified. 1994 was when things started downhill. 1995 was bottom. 1996 looks promising. : -- : John F Hall jfhall@avondale.demon.co.uk CompuServe: 100016,1210 -- Brian <brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....