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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!world1.bawave.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!inXS.uu.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!news.clinet.fi!not-for-mail From: mickey@cantina.clinet.fi (Mika Ruohotie) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: PentiumPro: Any Decent Motherboards? Date: 8 Jul 1996 23:45:58 +0300 Organization: Clinet, Espoo, Finland Lines: 80 Message-ID: <4rrs26$i60@cantina.clinet.fi> References: <4qshb3$f3b@pier2.bayarea.net> <4qut13$9p@uriah.heep.sax.de> <4r3ogd$2pi@news.clinet.fi> <DttDB6.5x@ritz.mordor.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cantina.clinet.fi Chris Mauritz <ritz@ritz.mordor.com> wrote: >Mika Ruohotie (mickey@cantina.clinet.fi) wrote: >Alternate chipset vendors couldn't hurt. In the past, it always indeed... >seemed that Intel passed off whatever they could "get away with" >as "cutting edge" until other vendors offered competing products. >I rather like competition for that reason. :-) ditto... though i would do it the way intel does if i'd where them... =) >: i think GigaBute already also has P6 board that's good, they also have >There are a number of companies with PP boards, but I think most >(if not all) use the Intel chipset (orion at this stage)...yeck... yeah, i know... but i heard yesterday at work there's new version out, it's intel made and has a name 'venus' if i recall right... but it came from our sales, and i havent seen any specs... assuming the venus is the chipset... anyway, it's not ATX anymore, and i like that... btw, the gigabyte i mentioned (both single and dual) werent ATX either, so i kinda assumed the next Intel board would not be either... i've been told that gigabyte designs intel motherboards... i have few reasons to like gigabyte, the bords can take the punishment from 4 PCI cards well, it has 6! simm slots, and the dual pentium board has an optional AHA7880 (but only 4 simms slots), and the boards are simple enough to configure for different CPUs... >: anyway, i'd suggest looking for GigaByte, i dont have the documentation i >Or Tyan or Asus or....None of these boards have been available long yes, i just dislike the jumper "forest" on some Asus boards... tyan's cool too... >enough for there to be any real "net.consensus" as to which ones >work or don't work. If anyone has this kind of information, please as i said, as soon as one of our customers get that stuff, i can test it shortly... but i also would love to see real experience... that testing happens soon, someone just bought ppro200 and venus board, i'll be playing with it soon... and another customer bought dual pentium 166 with 512 cache and 128M ram... how lucky one (me) can get? *wide grin* just a thought, i was planning on compiling same sets of freebsd on the boards, is there other ways to actually compare the performances? (using only a different board, rest remains same) >: but i think the latest Orion-chipset only had major probs in the multi CPU >: sections, it added some wait states if there's more than 4 CPUs present... some wait states == 16 if i recall right... >I still haven't seen Intel really admitting there were any serious >problems (did I miss some announcement?), but I've heard unofficially atleast our sale had some "official" information about that, but it came from the company who imports the boards to finland... intel itself seems to be unable to answer most of the questions, it's been only about two months that we asked from email about some misfeatures in their 10/100 hub... no answers... >the specifics, I'd love to hear about it. I really wish Intel would >be more forthcoming in terms of reporting bugs...grrrrr... ditto >Chris mickey sys/net admin, super systems oy & aeon net, mika@aeon.net mickey@aeon.net